Josh Allen vs. Ethan Allen

[Arm of Harm]

Josh Allen is of course the quarterback we all know and love. Ethan Allen was born in 1737, and played a role in the Revolutionary War and in Vermont becoming its own state. How do the two compare?

 

Leadership

Josh Allen: a leader of men on and off the field. A guy other guys want to play for. A team captain.

Ethan Allen: Colonel Commandant of the Green Mountain Boys, a Major General of the Vermont Republic Militia, and a Colonel in the Continental Army. Provided political leadership to Vermont.

 

Notable Accomplishments

Josh Allen: had the second-best 2020 season of any NFL QB. Led the Bills to the AFC Championship.

Ethan Allen: he and his Green Mountain Boys helped Vermont successfully resist New York State tyranny. Captured Fort Ticonderoga very early in the Revolutionary War.

 

Price on His Head

Josh Allen: pass rushers eagerly attempt to sack Josh if they can.

Ethan Allen: the NY governor put a price of 20 pounds on Ethan's head (worth about $3,300 today). That was later increased to 100 pounds ($16,500).

 

Recklessness

Josh Allen: Will sometimes go for the big play, even if it's covered, instead of taking what the defense gives him.

Ethan Allen: Led an ill-advised attack on Montreal, which resulted in his own capture.

 

Accuracy

Josh Allen: has become an accurate passer.

Ethan Allen: I am not aware of how accurate Ethan Allen was or wasn't when firing a musket.

 

Courage

Josh Allen: will hurdle defenders if necessary.

Ethan Allen: In battle he led from the front.

 

Overall

It's difficult to meaningfully ask, "which of the two is better?" as they play/played different positions. All that can be said with certainty is that Josh Allen is great if you need a quarterback, and Ethan Allen was great if you needed someone to resist New York State tyranny or British rule.

[Sig1Hunter]

I thought this thread was about Josh opening his own furniture store or something

[Foxx]

45 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said:

 

Now do Deshaun Watson and Peewee Herman.

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

What about Lamar Jackson and Stonewall Jackson.

[devnull]

Josh Allen can hurdle most anything in an Ethan Allen showroom

[Arm of Harm]

2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

What about Lamar Jackson and Stonewall Jackson.

Lamar Jackson is most known for his mobility. Stonewall Jackson was most known for being immovable, like a stone wall! 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

48 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said:

Lamar Jackson is most known for his mobility. Stonewall Jackson was most known for being immovable, like a stone wall! 

 

Actually, Stonewall Jackson was best known for his mobility in the Shenandoah Valley (google "foot cavalry").

[B-Man]

3 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

What about Lamar Jackson and Stonewall Jackson.

 

 

Cmon and rally you Ravens ! Look ! "There is Jackson throwing  like a stone wall."

[CarpetCrawler]

If only our OL was called Stonewall...

[devnull]

6 hours ago, CarpetCrawler said:

If only our OL was called Stonewall...

 

More like the Maginot Line

[Arm of Harm]

12 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Actually, Stonewall Jackson was best known for his mobility in the Shenandoah Valley (google "foot cavalry").

So . . . Lamar Jackson is best known for his mobility. Stonewall Jackson was best known for his mobility and his immovability. Advantage: Stonewall! 

[CarpetCrawler]

52 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said:

So . . . Lamar Jackson is best known for his mobility. Stonewall Jackson was best known for his mobility and his immovability. Advantage: Stonewall! 

How did I know you would have more information on this subject?

 

So what would be a better comparison?  I know Grant was not averse to taking heavy casualties in order to achieve victory, so I wouldn't mind Lamar taking up that philosophy.

 

[Arm of Harm]

18 hours ago, Foxx said:

Now do Deshaun Watson and Peewee Herman.

 

 

It is impossible to compare two people, unless they have the same last name. With that in mind, I will compare DeShaun Watson with Dr. James Watson, who along with Dr. Francis Crick discovered DNA.

 

Notable accomplishments

DeShaun Watson: is a very good NFL QB.

Dr. James Watson: won Nobel Prize for his role in discovering DNA. Worked with the NIH to establish the Human Genome project.

 

Off-field controversies

DeShaun Watson: accused by multiple women of inappropriate sexual conduct.

Dr. James Watson: stated that I.Q. differences between blacks and whites are due to genetics.

 

Punishments received for the above

DeShaun Watson: TBD

Dr. James Watson: forced to retire from Cold Springs Harbor Laboratory. Honorary degrees revoked. Appearances cancelled. Subjected to harassment and physical intimidation.

 

Overall

The discovery of DNA is a larger accomplishment than good quarterbacking for the Texans. In reaching this conclusion I bore in mind the following two factors. 1) DeShaun Watson does not have a Lombadi Trophy. 2) DeShaun's accomplishments have benefited the Texans, not the Buffalo Bills. Dr. James Watson is the better of the two.

Edited October 25, 2021 by Arm of Harm