This game is a referendum on the entire organization.

[RkFast]

I’m not even going to say it’s a “must win.”  For me, it’s a “must show up.” 
 

If they come out flat again, unprepared and uninspired again…if we get the QB erratic and on a “sugar high” again…for this game, under these circumstances, then IMHO that’s an absolutely a massive indictment of the entire organization.  From the front office, to the coaches (yes, all of them) to the players (yes…ALL OF THEM).

 

Am I suggesting we fire McD or trade Allen and DIGGS?  Hell no, don’t be silly. But I am saying that should they come out and lay another egg, some serious soul searching will need to be had about what this team and culture really is, what these players, including the QB, are really capable of and where do they go from there.  

[Ann]

I think they'll be fired up. How could they not be?

[RkFast]

17 minutes ago, Ann said:

I think they'll be fired up. How could they not be?

 

That's what Im sayin'. If they DONT, then there are some really deep fundamental issues here beyond how well one runs a route, how strong someone's arm is, or what game plan put in place. 

 

I dont know...they've been off all year and when you hear other team's players have even noticed that the Bills just dont seem "in the game" so to speak, that sets off huge alarm bells.

Edited December 6, 2021 by RkFast

[Ann]

Just now, RkFast said:

 

That's what Im sayin'. If they DONT, then there are some really deep fundamental issues here beyond how well one runs a route, how strong someone's arm is, or what game plan put in place. 

If anything, I worry they will be too amped leading to mistakes. This is big.

[TakeYouToTasker 2.0]

It’s the NFL. The league has a ton parity, and it’s extremely difficult to win.

 

Sometimes a team gets out coached. Sometimes key players to the game plan, or even the team’s superstars lay an egg. They are human. We’ve all had bad days at the office.

 

I’ll never understand these “indictment” type posts. This ownership group cleaned house, and made two remarkable hires, which changed the culture of the organization.

 

They assembled a deep roster, also one heavy on super stars, with a great culture, that can compete with any team on any given day.

 

McBeane have taken the team into the playoffs 3 times in 4 seasons. The only miss was under the arm of a very raw rookie quarterback, who would later validate his selection by playing one of the best seasons ever by any player in his position.

 

Last year the team finished one win away from a Super Bowl berth.

 

The current team is competing for their second division win in as many years, as well as a first round bye in the playoffs.

 

Now take ten long strides backwards, and contrast all of this against the prior 18 seasons…

 

Not winning tonight is not an indictment. It is not a soul searching moment.

 

It would simply be a loss to another very good team.

 

The Bills table is set for the next 10-15 years.

 

 

[snafu]

19 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said:

It’s the NFL. The league has a ton parity, and it’s extremely difficult to win.

 

Sometimes a team gets out coached. Sometimes key players to the game plan, or even the team’s superstars lay an egg. They are human. We’ve all had bad days at the office.

 

I’ll never understand these “indictment” type posts. This ownership group cleaned house, and made two remarkable hires, which changed the culture of the organization.

 

They assembled a deep roster, also one heavy on super stars, with a great culture, that can compete with any team on any given day.

 

McBeane have taken the team into the playoffs 3 times in 4 seasons. The only miss was under the arm of a very raw rookie quarterback, who would later validate his selection by playing one of the best seasons ever by any player in his position.

 

Last year the team finished one win away from a Super Bowl berth.

 

The current team is competing for their second division win in as many years, as well as a first round bye in the playoffs.

 

Now take ten long strides backwards, and contrast all of this against the prior 18 seasons…

 

Not winning tonight is not an indictment. It is not a soul searching moment.

 

It would simply be a loss to another very good team.

 

The Bills table is set for the next 10-15 years.

 

 

 

 

I agree with this. Not an existential moment.  It seems that we know what this team is and what it needs.

That said, I'm as anxious as I was for any playoff game last year.  Maybe it is because I feel like we could see a close game -- or a blowout by either team.  

 

 

 

 

[TakeYouToTasker 2.0]

11 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

 

I agree with this. Not an existential moment.  It seems that we know what this team is and what it needs.

That said, I'm as anxious as I was for any playoff game last year.  Maybe it is because I feel like we could see a close game -- or a blowout by either team.  

 

 

 

 

That anxious feeling is a good thing. It means you know we’re good enough to win.

 

It’s a much better feeling than the existential dread we all had prior to the 2017 (or possibly the 2019) season.

[RkFast]

40 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said:

It’s the NFL. The league has a ton parity, and it’s extremely difficult to win.

 

Sometimes a team gets out coached. Sometimes key players to the game plan, or even the team’s superstars lay an egg. They are human. We’ve all had bad days at the office.

 

I’ll never understand these “indictment” type posts. This ownership group cleaned house, and made two remarkable hires, which changed the culture of the organization.

 

They assembled a deep roster, also one heavy on super stars, with a great culture, that can compete with any team on any given day.

 

McBeane have taken the team into the playoffs 3 times in 4 seasons. The only miss was under the arm of a very raw rookie quarterback, who would later validate his selection by playing one of the best seasons ever by any player in his position.

 

Last year the team finished one win away from a Super Bowl berth.

 

The current team is competing for their second division win in as many years, as well as a first round bye in the playoffs.

 

Now take ten long strides backwards, and contrast all of this against the prior 18 seasons…

 

Not winning tonight is not an indictment. It is not a soul searching moment.

 

It would simply be a loss to another very good team.

 

The Bills table is set for the next 10-15 years.

 

 

 

Youre looking much more big picture that I am here (which is fine). I do agree with all youve written. Parity is real, and no team plays "perfect ball" all year long. However, there is no denying that this year so far has been a disappointment. There have been multiple  times where something happens...an inactive, a play sequence, a whole game, that just makes everyone scratch their heads and ask "what is going on here?" Remember...this is a team that was supposed to go to LA for a February game. And now the word FR--D has been thrown around, and by Buffalo people, too. 

 

If youll notice, I didnt even say they have to win tonight. If they are out schemed again by Belichick that is no an indictment. Hes arguably the best ever in terms of drawing up a defensive gameplan. However, if the Bills dont come out to play and are blown off the ball.....if they are sloppy with stupid undisciplined penalties....if their QB is on a "sugar high" again...if they are getting pushed around on their own field...then IMHO what this team is and how they are put together needs to be seriously questioned. 

Edited December 6, 2021 by RkFast

[Fansince88]

52 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said:

It’s the NFL. The league has a ton parity, and it’s extremely difficult to win.

 

Sometimes a team gets out coached. Sometimes key players to the game plan, or even the team’s superstars lay an egg. They are human. We’ve all had bad days at the office.

 

I’ll never understand these “indictment” type posts. This ownership group cleaned house, and made two remarkable hires, which changed the culture of the organization.

 

They assembled a deep roster, also one heavy on super stars, with a great culture, that can compete with any team on any given day.

 

McBeane have taken the team into the playoffs 3 times in 4 seasons. The only miss was under the arm of a very raw rookie quarterback, who would later validate his selection by playing one of the best seasons ever by any player in his position.

 

Last year the team finished one win away from a Super Bowl berth.

 

The current team is competing for their second division win in as many years, as well as a first round bye in the playoffs.

 

Now take ten long strides backwards, and contrast all of this against the prior 18 seasons…

 

Not winning tonight is not an indictment. It is not a soul searching moment.

 

It would simply be a loss to another very good team.

 

The Bills table is set for the next 10-15 years.

 

 

I agree with you 100% which can only mean you are wrong too. 😉. 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said:

It’s the NFL. The league has a ton parity, and it’s extremely difficult to win.

 

Sometimes a team gets out coached. Sometimes key players to the game plan, or even the team’s superstars lay an egg. They are human. We’ve all had bad days at the office.

 

 

And sometimes you somehow lose to the &#%$ing Jacksonville Jaguars.  

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, RkFast said:

There have been multiple  times where something happens...an inactive, a play sequence, a whole game, that just makes everyone scratch their heads and ask "what is going on here?"

 

First, you can do this with every one of the 32. Every one. Hell, last year TB was 7-5 and left for dead before they ran the tables.

 

Second, I'm not usually a fan of this kind of stuff, but when Diggs said the team needed to win this game for Tre, and this team comes out to a sea of white towels, there is no question they will come in motivated. But it takes everyone, including the right game plan, and my hope is that someone on this team is talking to Kelly and Andre and Thurman about now to play in the weather they're going to confront tonight. It will be the great equalizer, and it helps to have the input of guys who did it for years.

[Alaska Darin]

It's the NFL.  Every game is decided by a handful of plays.  I don't get wrapped up in "indictments" because the goddamn officials decide more games than the players now.

[Joe]

9 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

It's the NFL.  Every game is decided by a handful of plays.  I don't get wrapped up in "indictments" because the goddamn officials decide more games than the players now.

 

*sigh*

 

I'll say this again. There's only one game this year, IMO that the refs helped decide against the Bills, and that was in Tennessee. SO much holding.

 

SO much holding.

 

The rest? Not so much

 

[Core Four]

2 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

*sigh*

 

I'll say this again. There's only one game this year, IMO that the refs helped decide against the Bills, and that was in Tennessee. SO much holding.

 

SO much holding.

 

The rest? Not so much

 

 

You have a point.  Derrick Henry's long TD run should have been called back.  Poyer was being horse collared as Henry ran past him.

[Fansince88]

3 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

You have a point.  Derrick Henry's long TD run should have been called back.  Poyer was being horse collared as Henry ran past him.

There was more holding on that play then a the entire game on that run. it is disgusting what they got away with.

[Uncle Joe]

11 minutes ago, Joe said:

I'll say this again. There's only one game this year, IMO that the refs helped decide against the Bills,

We haven't played NE yet...

[Joe]

1 minute ago, Uncle Joe said:

We haven't played NE yet...

dick

 

[Core Four]

22 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

We haven't played NE yet...

 

Are the refs partial to NE or Brady, or both?  I always thought Brady was the NFL's Golden Boy.

[KD in CA]

45 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

Are the refs partial to NE or Brady, or both?  I always thought Brady was the NFL's Golden Boy.

They are partial to the ‘faces’ of the league, both player and franchise.  So both Brady and NE.  Combine them and you get WWE level fairness.

[Core Four]

3 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

They are partial to the ‘faces’ of the league, both player and franchise.  So both Brady and NE.  Combine them and you get WWE level fairness.

 

I'll buy that...makes sense.