Are the Bills what their record says they are?

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

5 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

Agree.  The fact that McD had to step in indicates that the defensive plan was flawed from minute 1.  Not a good reflection on Leslie Frazier as a DC.  As an aside, he's expected to get HC interest?!

 

Did I miss a report that McD stepped in at halftime?

 

Wouldn't surprise me...but I just haven't seen it mentioned outside of this discussion here.

[Core Four]

7 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Did I miss a report that McD stepped in at halftime?

 

Wouldn't surprise me...but I just haven't seen it mentioned outside of this discussion here.

 

No one report that to the best of my knowledge.  McD was spending some time with Frazier on the sidelines.

[Seasons1992]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:57 AM, KD in CA said:

If you're 0-5 in one score games, that's not luck, that's a character flaw.  

 

Exactly. They are NOT the red-zone team they were previously. If they could score in the red-zone, the Titans and Bucs and *Pats games would be W's. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Seasons1992

[Seasons1992]

7 hours ago, The Guy In Pants said:

I am not sure how Chunks can sit in the box upstairs and be unable to find a way to utilize the offense to it's full potential. If I could write a fortune to put in one of his cookies; it would read: "Take your shit and go. Leave the rolls". 

 

If this happens, at least it's a 10 minute drive back to W-S.

[snafu]

43 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Did I miss a report that McD stepped in at halftime?

 

Wouldn't surprise me...but I just haven't seen it mentioned outside of this discussion here.

 

While you were watching Roadhouse the broadcast showed McDermott and Frazier huddled up on the sideline later on in the second quarter.  Nantz & Romo were commenting on it.

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

17 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

While you were watching Roadhouse the broadcast showed McDermott and Frazier huddled up on the sideline later on in the second quarter.  Nantz & Romo were commenting on it.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

And I'm not apologizing for not knowing that, because I'm certain my watching Road House contributed to the comeback.

[snafu]

2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Thanks,

 

And I'm not apologizing for not knowing that, because I'm certain my watching Road House contributed to the comeback.

 

Good.  Make that your new Sunday routine.

 

[Augie]

On 12/14/2021 at 12:59 AM, Ann said:

 

 

https://twitter.com/sharpndpensel/status/1470545753244413954

That is almost freaky, and it doesn’t even begin to tell the story of how close some of those games were. 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

29 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Good.  Make that your new Sunday routine.

 

 

Despite featuring both Jeff Healey and Sam Elliot, I can't watch Road House that often.

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Despite featuring both Jeff Healey and Sam Elliot, I can't watch Road House that often.

 

Try Happy Feet!

 

[Fansince88]

5 hours ago, Core Four said:

 

Agree.  The fact that McD had to step in indicates that the defensive plan was flawed from minute 1.  Not a good reflection on Leslie Frazier as a DC.  As an aside, he's expected to get HC interest?!

Do we know he stepped in or are we assuming he stepped in?

[Fansince88]

4 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Thanks,

 

And I'm not apologizing for not knowing that, because I'm certain my watching Road House contributed to the comeback.

My curse is I have never shut a game off. That said, I didn't notice either. Because I didn't change the channel the dogs ran from the room and never returned.

 

[Foxx]

6 hours ago, snafu said:

 

Not the way I see your chart.  Look at "D-run: losses"  vs. "D-run: wins".  Three of those losses (Tenn, NE, TB) contained three huge runs which were the differences in each game.  It isn't shoulda, woulda, coulda.  The run defense isn't horrid without those three runs.

 

I thought to bring the chart over to this thread seeing as we might be seeing this thread through the end of the season and I didn't want it to get lost in the other one.

 

I added the averages of the respective totals for wins and losses to kind of help get a better idea of what the numbers are saying.

 

Roughly, in wins, on offense, we average 22.5 more yards on the ground and 45 more yards through the air. Roughly, in losses, on defense, we average a whopping 83 yards more (more than twice as much as we allow in wins), and 28.4 yards less through the air. Overall roughly, in wins, we average 67.5 yards more on offense and allow 59.5 yards less on defense.

 

It is a bit of a misnomer that we are actually allowing less yardage through the air in losses than we are in wins but that is a direct result of the lopsided run yardage we allow in those losses. 

 

 

Team	O-Run	O-Pass	D-run	D-Pass	O-Total	D-Total
Pittsburgh	117	254	75	177	371	252
Miami	143	171	71	145	314	246
Washington	122	359	78	212	481	290
Houston	199	251	48	61	450	109
Kansas City	121	315	120	272	436	392
Tennessee	82	335	146	216	417	362
Miami	102	249	68	194	351	262
Jacksonville	72	229	79	139	301	218
NYJ	139	350	70	296	489	366
Indianapolis	91	220	264	106	311	370
New Orleans	113	248	44	146	361	190
New England	99	131	222	19	230	241
Tampa Bay	173	293	137	351	466	488
Carolina	-	-	-	-	-	-
New England	-	-	-	-	-	-
Atlanta	-	-	-	-	-	-
NYJ	-	-	-	-	-	-
Team	O-Run	O-Pass	D-run	D-Pass	O-Total	D-Total
Total:	1532	3483	1419	2483	5015	3782
Total Avg:	117.85	267.92	109.15	191	385.77	290.92
Wins:	898	2021	496	1375	2919	1851
Wins Avg:	128.29	288.71	70.86	196.43	417	262.43
Losses:	634	1462	923	1008	2096	1931
Losses Avg:	105.67	243.67	153.83	168	349.33	321.83

[Core Four]

1 hour ago, Fansince88 said:

Do we know he stepped in or are we assuming he stepped in?

 

We don't know for sure as it hasn't been reported anywhere, that I have seen.  Maybe someone else saw an article.  As far as I can tell, it is a strong hunch as McD was spending some time with Frazier on the sidelines seen in some of CBS's broadcast, which corresponded to an improved pass rush and man coverage toward half time as well as the second half.  I would also assume McD had some words with Daboll, who is up in the box.  The defensive plan, as well as the offensive plan, were very flawed when you're down 24-3 as halftime was approaching.  Something had to be adjusted, and it looks like changes were made.

[Fansince88]

5 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

We don't know for sure as it hasn't been reported anywhere, that I have seen.  Maybe someone else saw an article.  As far as I can tell, it is a strong hunch as McD was spending some time with Frazier on the sidelines seen in some of CBS's broadcast, which corresponded to an improved pass rush and man coverage toward half time as well as the second half.  I would also assume McD had some words with Daboll, who is up in the box.  The defensive plan, as well as the offensive plan, were very flawed when you're down 24-3 as halftime was approaching.  Something had to be adjusted, and it looks like changes were made.

My lip reading is non existent. That said, after the failed the fake punt the video went to McD and I'm pretty sure the word going to fire you came out of his mouth....

[Core Four]

15 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

My lip reading is non existent. That said, after the failed the fake punt the video went to McD and I'm pretty sure the word going to fire you came out of his mouth....

 

If that is true, it would have been directed at his SpT coordinator, who came from Carolina.

[Fansince88]

3 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

If that is true, it would have been directed at his SpT coordinator, who came from Carolina.

I dont know who he was talking to. Just reporting the facts of what I think I may have possibly seen while incorrectly although I have no talent in such an ability

[Joe]

Yes. You are what your record says you are. Football is entirely about results.

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

6 hours ago, Joe said:

Yes. You are what your record says you are. Football is entirely about results.

 

 

 

No it's not.  It's all about DVOA.  [/FootballOutsiders]

[Joe]

16 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

No it's not.  It's all about DVOA.  [/FootballOutsiders]

And pass rush win rates. Don't forget that