Arm of Harm Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Going into the 2016 election, the DNC and its allies advanced the theory that Putin wanted Donald Trump to win the election. They claimed the Russians hacked the DNC server, so that emails which demonstrated bad faith on Hillary’s part could be shared with Wikileaks. If any of that was true, Putin’s likely motives would have been either to help Russia or to harm the U.S. During Trump’s presidency he did the following: got us out of bad trade deals, reduced illegal immigration to its lowest level in 30 years, reduced legal immigration, lowered unemployment to the lowest levels since the ‘60s, lowered black unemployment to the lowest level ever recorded, made America energy independent, and strengthened the American military. The American working class and middle class achieved solid real wage gains after decades of stagnation. In other words, he strengthened America. But did he also help Russia? Well, no. Trump’s increase of domestic oil production lowered the price of oil. Russia’s biggest export is oil, and low oil prices are devastating for Russia. Under Trump, the United States sent the Ukraine much more military aid than it had received under Obama. Russia conquered the eastern third of the Ukraine during Obama’s presidency, and did not conquer additional Ukrainian territory during Trump’s presidency. Sanctions against Russia were more severe under Trump than under Obama. Trump blocked the construction of an oil pipeline from Russia to Germany, because that pipeline would have made Germany too dependent on Russia. Several months before the 2020 election, the existence of Hunter Biden’s laptop was revealed to the public. Democrats and their allies claimed the laptop was fake. Likely planted by Russia, to help Trump win the 2020 election. What about the above-described evidence, which demonstrates that the Trump presidency was helpful to America and not helpful to Putin or Russia? Democrats ignored it. They ignored all of it, did not engage with the facts, and continued preaching Russian election interference as though it was a religious sermon. “Preach your message like a religious sermon, dehumanize the opposition, and don’t engage with inconvenient facts,” is Democratic Party standard operating procedure. The Russia hoax was just one instance of that larger pattern. My question is this: why does that pattern exist? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said: Going into the 2016 election, the DNC and its allies advanced the theory that Putin wanted Donald Trump to win the election. They claimed the Russians hacked the DNC server, so that emails which demonstrated bad faith on Hillary’s part could be shared with Wikileaks. If any of that was true, Putin’s likely motives would have been either to help Russia or to harm the U.S. During Trump’s presidency he did the following: got us out of bad trade deals, reduced illegal immigration to its lowest level in 30 years, reduced legal immigration, lowered unemployment to the lowest levels since the ‘60s, lowered black unemployment to the lowest level ever recorded, made America energy independent, and strengthened the American military. The American working class and middle class achieved solid real wage gains after decades of stagnation. In other words, he strengthened America. But did he also help Russia? Well, no. Trump’s increase of domestic oil production lowered the price of oil. Russia’s biggest export is oil, and low oil prices are devastating for Russia. Under Trump, the United States sent the Ukraine much more military aid than it had received under Obama. Russia conquered the eastern third of the Ukraine during Obama’s presidency, and did not conquer additional Ukrainian territory during Trump’s presidency. Sanctions against Russia were more severe under Trump than under Obama. Trump blocked the construction of an oil pipeline from Russia to Germany, because that pipeline would have made Germany too dependent on Russia. Several months before the 2020 election, the existence of Hunter Biden’s laptop was revealed to the public. Democrats and their allies claimed the laptop was fake. Likely planted by Russia, to help Trump win the 2020 election. What about the above-described evidence, which demonstrates that the Trump presidency was helpful to America and not helpful to Putin or Russia? Democrats ignored it. They ignored all of it, did not engage with the facts, and continued preaching Russian election interference as though it was a religious sermon. “Preach your message like a religious sermon, dehumanize the opposition, and don’t engage with inconvenient facts,” is Democratic Party standard operating procedure. The Russia hoax was just one instance of that larger pattern. My question is this: why does that pattern exist? because people are stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said: My question is this: why does that pattern exist? "Romney didn't win, did he?" Reid said in response to Bash's question of whether he regretted what he had said about Romney. Think about that logic for a minute. What Reid is saying is that it's entirely immaterial whether what he said about Romney and his taxes was true. All that mattered was that Romney didn't win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 6:04 PM, Arm of Harm said: My question is this: why does that pattern exist? Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Alinsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollegeDaze Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) Analysis I: Based on below links it takes about 45 seconds for the average Donald Trump hating Democrat to realize that the Clinton Democrats clown show 1) rigged the 2016 Democrat Party Presidential nomination and 2) sloppy Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton bribed/extorted Donald Trump to run for President as a "plant" to help "crooked" Hillary Clinton win the Presidential election. Jeb Bush called this latter part a (criminal) conspiracy. Analysis II: Based on below links it takes an additional 15 seconds for the average Donald Trump hating Democrat to realize the 2020 Presidential election results are likely bogus. Analysis Conclusion: One (1) minute. The Clinton Democrats recruited Donald Trump to run for President in 2016 as a Republican "Plant" to get Hillary elected President. The Clinton plan backfired because Donald Trump couldn't stay ahead of Hillary Clinton's non-stop damaging Wikileaks. Part One - Clintons Rig The 2016 DNC Primary (Wikileaks exposed this). Democrats Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Donna Brazile all accuse the Clinton Democrats of rigging the 2016 Democrat Party Presidential nomination. They base their accusations on Wikileaks releases of DNC e-mail showing the political BS the Clinton Democrats along with the DNC were doing to help Hillary. https://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/https://www.firstpost.com/world/wikileaks-emails-show-that-primary-was-rigged-dnc-favoured-hillary-clinton-over-bernie-sanders-2911604.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/02/ex-dnc-chair-goes-at-the-clintons-alleging-hillarys-campaign-hijacked-dnc-during-primary-with-bernie-sanders/https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.htmlhttps://money.cnn.com/2016/10/31/media/donna-brazile-cnn-resignation/ Part Two - Clintons/Donald Trump Rig The 2016 General Election https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-clinton-casually-encouraged-trump-to-run-for-president-before-2016-race-bookhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html?noredirect=onhttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-clinton-donald-trump-phone-call-report-2015-8http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/250445-brent-budowsky-is-trump-a-clinton-planthttp://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/291286-is-trump-deliberately-throwing-the-election-tohttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/09/jeb-bush-jokes-of-trump-clinton-conspiracy-theory-heres-a-look-at-the-evidence/https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-15/-a-lot-of-people-are-saying-trump-is-a-democratic-party-planthttps://www.nationalreview.com/2016/06/donald-trump-bill-clinton-plant-theory-marcy-kaptur-speculates/https://www.bustle.com/articles/186247-if-donald-trump-was-just-hillary-clintons-plant-too-bad-real-damage-has-been-donehttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35066940https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/donald-trump-democratic-plant/https://www.msn.com/en-my/lifestyle/lifestyle-slideshows/is-donald-trump-a-plant-to-help-hillary-clinton/vi-BBlsl21http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/08/05/Donald-Trump-s-Curious-Clinton-Connectionhttp://forex.info/could-donald-trump-be-a-plant-for-hillary-clinton/http://www.timrusso.org/2015/11/maybe-donald-trump-really-is-a-clinton-plant/https://newcitytimes.com/news/story/is-donald-trump-a-clinton-planthttp://www.thedailysheeple.com/saving-america-no-donald-trump-is-a-clinton-distraction-tactic_082015 Background: In 2014 "Crooked" Hillary Clinton was planning a run for the President in 2016 as a Democrat. She had horrible poll numbers so she knew she needed a worse Republican candidate to run against. "Crooked" Hillary and husband Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton concocted a plan to recruit Donald Trump to run as a Republican "plant" against "Crooked" Hillary. Donald Trump had no knowledge or involvement in any of this. Donald Trump was then contacted by Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton and offered a role in the election plan. Trump smartly declined the offer. Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton then contacted Donald Trump again in 2015 with the same offer. This time Donald Trump accepted the offer. Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton doesn't take "no" for an answer. Delete Edited June 11 by CollegeDaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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