Hollywoke -- A thread for Tinseltown's Tailspin into Televangelism

[Ann]

For each tax credit dollar allocated, the initial tax revenue returned to local and state governments was $1.07, according to the report.  I am not sure about the math after reading the rest of the article, but maybe there was a better explanation in the report (which I did not read). I would think it should have been a bigger return.  🤷‍♀️

 

California lost out on nearly $8 billion in economic activity, 28,000 jobs and over $350 million in revenue for state and local coffers from film and TV projects that chose to film elsewhere in recent years.
 

That’s one of the takeaways in a new report by the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation (LAEDC) for the Motion Picture Assn., a trade body for the major studios.
 

The eye-popping estimate was based on a review of 157 out of 312 projects that applied for but did not receive a California tax credit and took their productions elsewhere between 2015 and 2020.
 

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The current state program, which sunsets in 2025, allows filmmakers to recoup 20% to 25% of spending on qualified costs, such as money spent building sets and hiring crews. Producers use the credits to offset state taxes.
 

“The tax credits are an investment in keeping the film and TV industry in California, potentially reversing a loss and retaining a critical mass that will generate future tax receipts,” the report said.
 

The authors estimated that during the five-year period the program contributed $22 billion in economic output and 110,300 jobs, including 64,600 in direct employment. This returned $962 million in tax revenue to the state and local governments.
 

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[Crap Throwing Clavin]

6 minutes ago, Ann said:

For each tax credit dollar allocated, the initial tax revenue returned to local and state governments was $1.07, according to the report.  I am not sure about the math after reading the rest of the article, but maybe there was a better explanation in the report (which I did not read). I would think it should have been a bigger return.  🤷‍♀️

 

California lost out on nearly $8 billion in economic activity, 28,000 jobs and over $350 million in revenue for state and local coffers from film and TV projects that chose to film elsewhere in recent years.
 

That’s one of the takeaways in a new report by the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation (LAEDC) for the Motion Picture Assn., a trade body for the major studios.
 

The eye-popping estimate was based on a review of 157 out of 312 projects that applied for but did not receive a California tax credit and took their productions elsewhere between 2015 and 2020.
 

</snip>
 

The current state program, which sunsets in 2025, allows filmmakers to recoup 20% to 25% of spending on qualified costs, such as money spent building sets and hiring crews. Producers use the credits to offset state taxes.
 

“The tax credits are an investment in keeping the film and TV industry in California, potentially reversing a loss and retaining a critical mass that will generate future tax receipts,” the report said.
 

The authors estimated that during the five-year period the program contributed $22 billion in economic output and 110,300 jobs, including 64,600 in direct employment. This returned $962 million in tax revenue to the state and local governments.
 

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But the overweight double-amputee trans mulatto touch-typists feel really good about themselves, so that's something. 

[Fansince88]

3 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

I know.  There's some serious weirdness in it.  "The true stories my based-on-a-true-story fiction are based on are fiction" is a relatively convoluted petard to be hoisted on.

Based on fiction? THAT'S NOT TRUE!

[Dubs]

Thanks!

 

My entertainment habits have changed so much in the past 5 years it’s night and day. Nearly everything I used to watch back then I don’t now. 
 

- News: Aside from having either the local news or one of the networks/fox on in the background, I’ll never actually pay attention to anything.  Instead I get snippets from here and there, get a sense of what’s going on, then dig in deeper with long form interviews or podcasts. 
 

- Sports: virtually nothing. I’ll watch live football and golf majors, but other than that nothing. I don’t watch a single sports “show” anymore. This is probably the biggest difference in my habits. Sports was my world as a child though my mid 30s. Now I view it as corrupted by politics and chuckleheads, so the only interesting thing is the actual live event. 
 

- Network TV: complete joke. If you watch network TV I think you’re braindead. Aside from the occasional true crime series, network TV has not a single interesting thing on it. 
 

- Cable TV: the last scripted drama I watched on cable TV was Sons of Anarchy. I’ve liked some of the niche channels, food network, hgtv, but even those are deteriorating. 
 

- original streaming content: if you can find a show now that isn’t obviously excluding heterosexual, white men that would be a nice. That being said, occasionally find some decent original shows on HBO, Netflix, etc…but it’s few and far between. 
 

- Movies: the last time I actually went to the movies to watch something I was actually excited to see is in the distant past. I’d say there’s maybe 2 or 3 movies a year I’m moderately interested in.  Either unoriginal, over produced, politically slanted, or all three. Not remotely interested in wasting time or money on that. 
 

so, basically find myself throwing on documentaries or reruns of a couple shows or rewatching older movies. But mostly now listen to podcasts, read, or non-media related things. 

[Joe Miner]

On 3/19/2022 at 8:48 AM, Dubs said:

Thanks!

 

My entertainment habits have changed so much in the past 5 years it’s night and day. Nearly everything I used to watch back then I don’t now. 
 

- News: Aside from having either the local news or one of the networks/fox on in the background, I’ll never actually pay attention to anything.  Instead I get snippets from here and there, get a sense of what’s going on, then dig in deeper with long form interviews or podcasts. 
 

- Sports: virtually nothing. I’ll watch live football and golf majors, but other than that nothing. I don’t watch a single sports “show” anymore. This is probably the biggest difference in my habits. Sports was my world as a child though my mid 30s. Now I view it as corrupted by politics and chuckleheads, so the only interesting thing is the actual live event. 
 

- Network TV: complete joke. If you watch network TV I think you’re braindead. Aside from the occasional true crime series, network TV has not a single interesting thing on it. 
 

- Cable TV: the last scripted drama I watched on cable TV was Sons of Anarchy. I’ve liked some of the niche channels, food network, hgtv, but even those are deteriorating. 
 

- original streaming content: if you can find a show now that isn’t obviously excluding heterosexual, white men that would be a nice. That being said, occasionally find some decent original shows on HBO, Netflix, etc…but it’s few and far between. 
 

- Movies: the last time I actually went to the movies to watch something I was actually excited to see is in the distant past. I’d say there’s maybe 2 or 3 movies a year I’m moderately interested in.  Either unoriginal, over produced, politically slanted, or all three. Not remotely interested in wasting time or money on that. 
 

so, basically find myself throwing on documentaries or reruns of a couple shows or rewatching older movies. But mostly now listen to podcasts, read, or non-media related things. 

 

Agreed.

 

Even Pornhub is getting a little stale.

[Wacka]

When I was in California, I got stuck watching one of those romance shows on Lifetime or Hallmark or whatever.  The main character was going home(I think Vermont) for her wedding with her Maid of Honor, who  was a yuppie in NYC. 

The show checked all the boxes.  The bride was overweight(check). Her fiancé was black (check). The minister  and doctor were black(check) (I think Vermont, although liberal, is the whitest state in the union). The Maid of Honor had a gay black boss(check). The 4 women at he bachelorette party were  white , asian, indian and black (check). Her family had a maple syrup  business, but the trees in aerial views  were changing colors and they said the sap was flowing. Every scene  looked like it was 70-80 outside  which is not in Spring in New England.I pointed all this out  to the person I was watching it with and  she was like "Oh my god , you're right."

Edited March 24, 2022 by Wacka

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

When I was in California, I got stuck watching one of those romance shows on Lifetime or Hallmark or whatever.  The main character was going home(I think Vermont) for her wedding with her Maid of Honor, who  was a yuppie in NYC. 

The show checked all the boxes.  The bride was overweight(check). Her fiancé was black (check). The minister  and doctor were black(check) (I think Vermont, although liberal, is the whitest state in the union). The Maid of Honor had a gay black boss(check). The 4 women at he bachelorette party were  white , asian, indian and black (check). Her family had a maple syrup  business, but the trees in aerial views  were changing colors and they said the sap was flowing. Every scene  looked like it was 70-80 outside  which is not in Spring in New England.I pointed all this out  to the person I was watching it with and  she was like "Oh my god , you're right."

 

Shit like that really bugs me.  It's almost completely contrary to human behavior.  There's mounds of evidence that people associate unconsciously with those that look most like them, rarely with people who look different.

 

The most interesting, borderline creepy, confirmation of that being the original Planet of the Apes.  

 

 

[devnull]

56 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

Shit like that really bugs me.  It's almost completely contrary to human behavior.  There's mounds of evidence that people associate unconsciously with those that look most like them, rarely with people who look different.

 

The most interesting, borderline creepy, confirmation of that being the original Planet of the Apes.  

 

 

 

 

[Dubs]

What’s the woke side to take for the Fresh Prince/Chris Rock kerfuffle?  Not sure how to react to this….

[Cinga]

On 3/21/2022 at 9:57 AM, Joe Miner said:

 

Agreed.

 

Even Pornhub is getting a little stale.

 

Why? Is it the same thing over and over again like the TV and the movies?

[Cinga]

1 minute ago, Dubs said:

What’s the woke side to take for the Fresh Prince/Chris Rock kerfuffle?  Not sure how to react to this….

 

I asked on my FB If no one was watching the Oscars when Will Smith allegedly hit Chris Rock did it actually happen?

[devnull]

2 minutes ago, Dubs said:

What’s the woke side to take for the Fresh Prince/Chris Rock kerfuffle?  Not sure how to react to this….

 

Wherefore art thou, Magical 9 Ball of Intersectionality?

[snafu]

1 minute ago, Dubs said:

What’s the woke side to take for the Fresh Prince/Chris Rock kerfuffle?  Not sure how to react to this….

 

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that my wife would have let me have it if I pulled that Will Smith stunt.  I would have been sitting there VERY conflicted until she gave the the "don't you dare" death stare.

 

 

[Dubs]

1 minute ago, devnull said:

 

Wherefore art thou, Magical 9 Ball of Intersectionality?

Im confused, scared, frustrated. Please help me. 

[devnull]

Just now, Dubs said:

Im confused, scared, frustrated. Please help me. 

 

I understand.  Thinking for yourself can be difficult.  That is why Twitter has Blue Check Marks to tell us what to think

[Dubs]

1 minute ago, devnull said:

 

I understand.  Thinking for yourself can be difficult.  That is why Twitter has Blue Check Marks to tell us what to think

😔 

[devnull]

12 minutes ago, Dubs said:

What’s the woke side to take for the Fresh Prince/Chris Rock kerfuffle?  Not sure how to react to this….

 

According CNN Analyst Asha Rangappa, this is Trump's fault

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-analyst-blames-trump-aftermath-will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-incident

 

🤦‍♂️

[Dubs]

3 minutes ago, devnull said:

 

According CNN Analyst Asha Rangappa, this is Trump's fault

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-analyst-blames-trump-aftermath-will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-incident

 

🤦‍♂️

I’m honestly torn between thinking these people are just the stupidest people on the planet and thinking they are just acting a part in a long, long play. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

6 minutes ago, devnull said:

 

According CNN Analyst Asha Rangappa, this is Trump's fault

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-analyst-blames-trump-aftermath-will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-incident

 

🤦‍♂️

 

1 minute ago, Dubs said:

I’m honestly torn between thinking these people are just the stupidest people on the planet and thinking they are just acting a part in a long, long play. 

Black on black violence doesn't exist!!!