Nouseforaname Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Robs House said: I haven't seen too much Democrat reaction to the "preemptive" strikes yet, but here's Zelensky calling for it. Seems like Kyiv is walking back his statement saying he was referring to “preemptive sanctions” Edited October 7, 2022 by Nouseforaname 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robs House Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Seems like Kyiv is walking back his statement saying he was referring to “preemptive sanctions” Ukrainian Biden. He says the plan out loud and his handlers walk it back. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Robs House said: Ukrainian Biden. He says the plan out loud and his handlers walk it back. Ukrainian Biden would have been on a helicopter on his way to Monaco the second Russia invaded. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robs House Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Ukrainian Biden would have been on a helicopter on his way to Monaco the second Russia invaded. Can't argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crap Throwing Clavin Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Robs House said: Some things most people don't understand about nuclear usage: 1) Soviet nuclear doctrine was predicated on the axiom that a nuclear war could be won. They never embraced the nihilistic Western interpretation of a nuclear exchange as being an apocalyptic end to a conflict. 2) Soviet doctrine establishes a well-defined line between "tactical" and "strategic" nuclear use. For example, Soviet strategic doctrine specifies that one of the strategic-political uses of strategic nuclear weapons is the prevention, through their existence and threat, of a limited nuclear war (involving tactical weapons) from becoming a full, strategic exchange. While that's Soviet doctrine, not necessarily Russian, Putin is an old Cold War officer, and his attitudes towards nuclear weapons are doubtlessly informed to some degree by Soviet principles. There's reason to believe Putin sees as possible a tactical use of nuclear weapons without escalation to a strategic exchange as a war-winning strategy. 3) In US doctrine, the line between "conventional" and "nuclear" war isn't as bright as people believe. Remember, Bush II argued for the use of tactical nuclear weapons against very hardened targets in otherwise conventional war. And it's not well known that some of the war plans at the time were rewritten to include nuclear options in otherwise conventional plans. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 completely unrelated. /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robs House Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Nothing groundbreaking here, but very well stated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nouseforaname Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Hedge said: https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-says-truck-blast-caused-crimea-bridge-explosion-stops-short-of-blaming-kyiv/ While officials in Moscow stopped short of blaming Kyiv, an official in Russian-installed Crimea pointed the finger at “Ukrainian vandals.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Russia probably did it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: Ukraine has now owned it? It was either Ukraine or anti war Russians. Guess now we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Don’t know the authenticity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Foxx said: Russia probably did it... "Section of Crimea Bridge was promoted to tunnel." Edited October 9, 2022 by bdutton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robs House Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Disturbing video below. It's hard to know who to believe, especially since I don't speak the language, but it appears that those dumping bodies in a mass grave are the people we're supporting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 9:30 AM, Foxx said: Russia probably did it... So...Ukraine destroyed a major supply route for the Black Sea fleet and Russian forces in the Crimea. What's the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robs House Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Again, I don't know exactly what to make of this, but on the surface it's a bad look for the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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