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[Crap Throwing Clavin]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Isn't it fortunate for you that those three words just happened to be the only three words you knew?

 

I don't mind his trash talking.  I mind that he's really, really bad at it.

[3rdnlng]

10 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

I don't mind his trash talking.  I mind that he's really, really bad at it.

Maybe if he expanded his vocabulary? 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

Just now, 3rdnlng said:

Maybe if he expanded his vocabulary? 

 

Not likely.  Actual dolphins have a larger vocabulary.

[Ann]

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[Ann]

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[Core Four]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

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They won't talk about the kickoff, nor will they talk about the defensive series; 'they' being coaches and players.  What that tells me is the Bills effed both of those incidents up so badly that it is embarrassing.  I would guess that any coaching staff changes has already been made, so best we as fans can hope for is McD learned from these huge eff-ups.  Unfortunately, that's what it seems to take for McD.

[Alaska Darin]

On 2/24/2022 at 1:05 PM, Core Four said:

 

They won't talk about the kickoff, nor will they talk about the defensive series; 'they' being coaches and players.  What that tells me is the Bills effed both of those incidents up so badly that it is embarrassing.  I would guess that any coaching staff changes has already been made, so best we as fans can hope for is McD learned from these huge eff-ups.  Unfortunately, that's what it seems to take for McD.

In fairness, most people only learn by making the mistakes themselves. 

 

McD is going to take that loss to his grave.

[Core Four]

3 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

In fairness, most people only learn by making the mistakes themselves. 

 

McD is going to take that loss to his grave.

 

I agree that mistakes are meant to be learned from, but the mistakes McD and Frazier made were very preventable.  First, the prevent/soft zone has never worked, ever.  NFL defensive history is littered with that mistake, and the teams that made that mistake always lost.  Additionally, KC had 2 timeouts and McD/Frazier guarded the sidelines and gave Kelce and Hill a lot of room all over the middle of the field.  These mistakes were not only preventable, they demonstrated a lack of situational awareness.  McD's (and Frazier's) football intelligence should be questioned, such as how Sean Payton did by calling the defensive effort 'criminal.'

[Alaska Darin]

28 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

I agree that mistakes are meant to be learned from, but the mistakes McD and Frazier made were very preventable.  First, the prevent/soft zone has never worked, ever.  NFL defensive history is littered with that mistake, and the teams that made that mistake always lost.  Additionally, KC had 2 timeouts and McD/Frazier guarded the sidelines and gave Kelce and Hill a lot of room all over the middle of the field.  These mistakes were not only preventable, they demonstrated a lack of situational awareness.  McD's (and Frazier's) football intelligence should be questioned, such as how Sean Payton did by calling the defensive effort 'criminal.'

Dude...I couldn't be more livid with the way the final 13 seconds was handled from the moment our final TD was scored.

 

This was not our first time in the playoffs, nor was anyone involved an inexperienced coach just learning their position.  The constantly repeated "communication issue" is nothing more than a poor excuse for a total lack of leadership in the season's most important moment, especially considering the overall experience and the amount of money the team spends on special team's specialists.

 

KC didn't win the game...the BILLS' coaching staff lost it.  The fact that Frazier will likely be the DC again next season can only be viewed as any organizational failure.  99.9% of your average Madden players woulda brought the AFC Championship game back to Orchard Park in the same situation.

 

[Ann]

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[Fansince88]

4 hours ago, Ann said:

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[Core Four]

7 hours ago, Ann said:

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Same non-answers as five weeks ago...it start with me as the head coach....execution needs to be better...blah blah blah.

The fans deserve to know the truth, not like this is a matter of national security or anything like that.  It's a football game with a high stakes situation where he and his staff came up grossly small and incompetent, though McD will never admit that.  At least we're hearing less about "The Process" which I think is code for keeping McD, his staff, and Beane employed for as long as possible.  As the Navy SEALs say - it's time for McD to put out.  Win the big games without choking in big situations.

[Arm of Harm]

8 hours ago, Ann said:

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There appears to be an unwritten rule in football that if you’re a player or a coach you figure out where the blame should be placed. Then in your public statements you put the blame anywhere and everywhere except the one place where it belongs. Josh Allen did that when he seemingly placed the blame for the KC loss on opportunities the offense had missed. 
 

By limiting his question to 13 seconds the reporter didn’t give McDermott the same opportunity to wiggle out of assigning real accountability. McDermott at least had to admit the defense had done something wrong. But, because the problem was defensive play calling and philosophy, he therefore assigned the blame to execution. 
 

The feeling is that you never publicly assign blame where it actually belongs, because then you’re throwing someone under the bus. But I don’t know that assigning blame to “execution” in order to mask the gross incompetence of a defensive coordinator is the right approach either. While I’m not saying the players were necessarily perfect during the thirteen seconds, they were not the primary culprit. So why make it seem like they were? 

[KD in CA]

4 hours ago, Fansince88 said:

 

Seriously....just seeing this thread pisses me off and makes me sad.  Can we just close it and move on to 2022?

[Arm of Harm]

1 hour ago, KD in CA said:

 

Seriously....just seeing this thread pisses me off and makes me sad.  Can we just close it and move on to 2022?

None of us are exactly bursting with joy over the 13 seconds. Once McDermott takes corrective action, the 13 seconds will indeed be a thing of the past. Problem is, I see no indication corrective action has been taken. Frazier used the same failure of a game plan in this year’s KC playoff game that he’d used in last year’s KC playoff game. With the same dismal result. If given the opportunity, he’ll do the same thing in the next playoff game against KC. 

The hope is that the next time we face KC in the playoffs, the defensive game plan will at least contain a faint hint of basic competence. But, McDermott has said and done nothing to suggest such hopes are in any way realistic. That’s going to be a huge problem going forward, unless he’s taking some kind of corrective action behind the scenes. Unfortunately he’s stubbornly refused to take the one action which would have improved the defense the most: firing Leslie Frazier. 

[KD in CA]

44 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said:

None of us are exactly bursting with joy over the 13 seconds. Once McDermott takes corrective action, the 13 seconds will indeed be a thing of the past. Problem is, I see no indication corrective action has been taken. Frazier used the same failure of a game plan in this year’s KC playoff game that he’d used in last year’s KC playoff game. With the same dismal result. If given the opportunity, he’ll do the same thing in the next playoff game against KC. 

The hope is that the next time we face KC in the playoffs, the defensive game plan will at least contain a faint hint of basic competence. But, McDermott has said and done nothing to suggest such hopes are in any way realistic. That’s going to be a huge problem going forward, unless he’s taking some kind of corrective action behind the scenes. Unfortunately he’s stubbornly refused to take the one action which would have improved the defense the most: firing Leslie Frazier. 

If you’re waiting for that to happen, you better get comfortable.

 

You really think the Bills would put those crosshairs on themselves?   

[Alaska Darin]

9 hours ago, KD in CA said:

If you’re waiting for that to happen, you better get comfortable.

 

You really think the Bills would put those crosshairs on themselves?   

No football team is ever going to be that level of open.  People need to try living in reality.  The idea that you're owed an explanation because you're a fan is ridiculous.

[Core Four]

1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said:

No football team is ever going to be that level of open.  People need to try living in reality.  The idea that you're owed an explanation because you're a fan is ridiculous.

 

We're not owed an explanation, but the fact that McD sidesteps the question with execution and it starts with me shows that he effed up big time and he's trying to cover for it.  He says that all the time.  At least tell the fans that a mistake was made (he still hasn't admitted that) and that it is being corrected.  This would go a long way, which I think is what @Arm of Harm was getting at.

[Alaska Darin]

42 minutes ago, Core Four said:

 

We're not owed an explanation, but the fact that McD sidesteps the question with execution and it starts with me shows that he effed up big time and he's trying to cover for it.  He says that all the time.  At least tell the fans that a mistake was made (he still hasn't admitted that) and that it is being corrected.  This would go a long way, which I think is what @Arm of Harm was getting at.

We've talked about this before but McDermott is clearly evolving (the fact that we constantly go for 4th down, especially against better teams is the easiest example).

 

He's not talking about it because he 100% wants to move past it and if he even acknowledges it, the vultures will never stop picking at the corpse.  Everyone needs to get over it.  If the Defense looks the same next season, it'll rear back up quickly enough.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:

We've talked about this before but McDermott is clearly evolving (the fact that we constantly go for 4th down, especially against better teams is the easiest example).

 

He's not talking about it because he 100% wants to move past it and if he even acknowledges it, the vultures will never stop picking at the corpse.  Everyone needs to get over it.  If the Defense looks the same next season, it'll rear back up quickly enough.

 

Plus, acknowledging it within the organization vs. acknowledging it outside the organization are two completely different things.  If I have someone on my team who's a complete &#%$-up, how I discuss it within the project team, and how I discuss it with the government, are very different.

 

Pretty sure McDermott is at least as smart about that as I am.  And it shouldn't be hard for people to understand.