Buffalo Bills St. John Fisher Training Camp 2022

[Ann]

Looks like the Bills might be returning to the Rochester area for training camp:

 

The Bills are working towards a return to St. John Fisher for training camp this summer. After two years of staying in Orchard Park during August due to Covid restrictions, the Bills and the college have been in discussions about coming back to Fisher for 2022. If an agreement can be reached, the Bills would likely spend around two weeks at Fisher , from the end of July into August, before returning to Orchard Park for the rest of their camp.
 

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The latest contract agreement between the team and the school was supposed to expire in 2021, but provisions may have allowed it to be altered because of the disruptions for the past two summers or by a new agreement between the two organizations.

[Ann]

Hubby and I went the last day of training camp in 2019. Who knew it would be the last day of training camp at St. John Fisher for years? BTW, thinking of going? Do not go on kid's day or the last day unless you have children. Because there are kids everywhere. The view from the grand stands was terrible and hazy, but there is where the players take the field. The view from the shorter stands on the opposite side was bright and clear, and you can walk up to the fence easier to get closer to the action. The whole thing looks like organized chaos.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Ann]

This is a very interesting article, and might be a reason for the Bills to keep training camp in Orchard Park rather than return to Rochester:
 

 

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Why is the team getting healthier? I believe a part is due to luck, a part is due to better medical staff & resources. This isn’t to say that the medical staff before was poor by any means, but to have a great training staff plus the resources available at the AdPro Sports Training Center that opened earlier this year.
 

Following McDermott’s first year, the training staff changed dramatically with the retirement of Bud Carpenter & the dismissal of Shone Gipson. This allowed the team to bring in Nate Breske from Chicago who brought on his own staff which clearly made a huge difference over the past 2 seasons.
 

Adding the AdPro Sports Training Center helped to individualize care to focus on the specific needs of each player rather than a one size fits all approach sometimes seen in rehab & medicine. Some of the features that the facility has included:
 

Sleep pods, float tanks, yoga, massage rooms, active release technology. These all assist in getting proper rest & relaxation to allow the body to heal more completely to maximize the recovery process by reducing stress.
 

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[RochesterRob]

48 minutes ago, Ann said:

This is a very interesting article, and might be a reason for the Bills to keep training camp in Orchard Park rather than return to Rochester:
 

 

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Why is the team getting healthier? I believe a part is due to luck, a part is due to better medical staff & resources. This isn’t to say that the medical staff before was poor by any means, but to have a great training staff plus the resources available at the AdPro Sports Training Center that opened earlier this year.
 

Following McDermott’s first year, the training staff changed dramatically with the retirement of Bud Carpenter & the dismissal of Shone Gipson. This allowed the team to bring in Nate Breske from Chicago who brought on his own staff which clearly made a huge difference over the past 2 seasons.
 

Adding the AdPro Sports Training Center helped to individualize care to focus on the specific needs of each player rather than a one size fits all approach sometimes seen in rehab & medicine. Some of the features that the facility has included:
 

Sleep pods, float tanks, yoga, massage rooms, active release technology. These all assist in getting proper rest & relaxation to allow the body to heal more completely to maximize the recovery process by reducing stress.
 

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  While anything is possible I would put money on returning to St John Fisher.  The Bills still want to grow the brand in the region.  Honestly, I would like to see training camp rotate between a few locations over a 5 year period.  SUNY Fredonia, SJF, SU, Cornell, and St B.  The financial commitment to any one location most likely precludes the commitment to several.

[Alaska Darin]

I love reading stuff like that.  They ignore simple facts:

 

1.  OBD is like an hour drive from SJF, so if it's really needed players can be shuttled back and forth easily enough. 

2.  Our owners are &#%$ing rich and unlike Ralph more than willing to use their wealth to improve their investment.   It's a pretty simple deal for them to foot the bill for non-portable amenities at SJF or find Rochester-area resources and put priority contracts in place for the associated time frame.  The one thing the Pegulas clearly understand is ROI.  They've pretty quickly made Buffalo a place players actually WANT to play/bring their families.  Last off season made that REALLY obvious when guys like McKenzie and Levi Wallace took far below market deals to remain with the team.

[RochesterRob]

4 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

I love reading stuff like that.  They ignore simple facts:

 

1.  OBD is like an hour drive from SJF, so if it's really needed players can be shuttled back and forth easily enough. 

2.  Our owners are &#%$ing rich and unlike Ralph more than willing to use their wealth to improve their investment.   It's a pretty simple deal for them to foot the bill for non-portable amenities at SJF or find Rochester-area resources and put priority contracts in place for the associated time frame.  The one thing the Pegulas clearly understand is ROI.  They've pretty quickly made Buffalo a place players actually WANT to play/bring their families.  Last off season made that REALLY obvious when guys like McKenzie and Levi Wallace took far below market deals to remain with the team.

  I agree with you in general but would say that Ralph had less peripheral money so to speak than the Pegula's.  Far less.  Ralph was rich to the point of being elite when he helped found the AFL in 1959.  When Ralph died in 2014 he was one of the least wealthiest owners when it came to the NFL in comparison to the others.  Yes, the Bills made him a billionaire but the other assets he had such as his Grosse Point, MI home, horses, paintings, etc were a small fraction of his overall value and were not cash making machines in any sense.  Not to the tune of building facilities for the team and at the same time keep him in the life style he knew.  Then Ralph had old man's syndrome where a person generally gets adverse to spending beyond the basics.  Even with that Ralph out paced many of his NFL contemporaries such as Art Modell.    

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[Alaska Darin]

3 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  I agree with you in general but would say that Ralph had less peripheral money so to speak than the Pegula's.  Far less.  Ralph was rich to the point of being elite when he helped found the AFL in 1959.  When Ralph died in 2014 he was one of the least wealthiest owners when it came to the NFL in comparison to the others.  Yes, the Bills made him a billionaire but the other assets he had such as his Grosse Point, MI home, horses, paintings, etc were a small fraction of his overall value and were not cash making machines in any sense.  Not to the tune of building facilities for the team and at the same time keep him in the life style he knew.  Then Ralph had old man's syndrome where a person generally gets adverse to spending beyond the basics.  Even with that Ralph out paced many of his NFL contemporaries such as Art Modell.    

Yeah, I remember him stating he had to sell a painting to pay Andre Reed's bonus money and that was back when he was actually spending more money on players than most owners.

[Ann]

From his Q&A at the combine today:

[Ann]

One year deal