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On 11/28/2022 at 9:15 AM, Nouseforaname said:

 

 

Funny cause of the look, but the guy on the left is a cream puff.  He shows none of the necessary killer instinct.

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22 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Funny cause of the look, but the guy on the left is a cream puff.  He shows none of the necessary killer instinct.

You say that, but there could be more similarities than you realize.

 

They both like older women.

 

You say Wilson doesn't have a killer instinct, but has he ever been left alone at a daycare?  Maybe he does have that same instinct.

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1 hour ago, Ann said:

Well....
 

 

And in ten years Zack will become the starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints and in the running for NFL Comeback Player of the Year (after spending the intervening years as a backup and practice squad player for six different teams.)

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Still mind boggling they took zack over Micah parsons, Jamarr chase, and jaylen waddle. IMO whether drafted in first round or 7th round once player drafted still need to compete for the starting role. Nothing is given. It start with off-season to training camp. Just because drafted in first round does not mean you do not have to compete. Need drive and perseverance. Zack should study josh Allen trajectory. Josh has done everything needed to be done as quarterback should do. Not only using talent but in film room studying and working with coach to improve mechanics. There is will to be great. How many times has everyone seen high round quarterback drafted only become bust?

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2 hours ago, Rochesterny said:

Still mind boggling they took zack over Micah parsons, Jamarr chase, and jaylen waddle. IMO whether drafted in first round or 7th round once player drafted still need to compete for the starting role. Nothing is given. It start with off-season to training camp. Just because drafted in first round does not mean you do not have to compete. Need drive and perseverance. Zack should study josh Allen trajectory. Josh has done everything needed to be done as quarterback should do. Not only using talent but in film room studying and working with coach to improve mechanics. There is will to be great. How many times has everyone seen high round quarterback drafted only become bust?

 

Maybe Wilson's doing all that, but in my life experience, usually when a guy goes out of his way to project a cocky douchebag persona, he's not capable of the type of humility and self-evaluation required to change and improve as a person.

 

Not to say he can't/won't grow up and start acting like a football player, but everything about Wilson just screams 'entitled kid who's never faced a real roadblock before'.

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30 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Maybe Wilson's doing all that, but in my life experience, usually when a guy goes out of his way to project a cocky douchebag persona, he's not capable of the type of humility and self-evaluation required to change and improve as a person.

 

Not to say he can't/won't grow up and start acting like a football player, but everything about Wilson just screams 'entitled kid who's never faced a real roadblock before'.

You got it 100% on the nose.  I think essentially the same thing happened to Jack Eichel - he'd never faced real adversity before and when he did he didn't handle it well.  He appears to have grown up quite a bit after his "experience" in the game in Buffalo last season.

 

We're going to find out what Wilson is made of but I'll be very surprised if he survives this.  Even if he does, it's likely not in NYC.

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3 hours ago, Rochesterny said:

Still mind boggling they took zack over Micah parsons, Jamarr chase, and jaylen waddle. IMO whether drafted in first round or 7th round once player drafted still need to compete for the starting role. Nothing is given. It start with off-season to training camp. Just because drafted in first round does not mean you do not have to compete. Need drive and perseverance. Zack should study josh Allen trajectory. Josh has done everything needed to be done as quarterback should do. Not only using talent but in film room studying and working with coach to improve mechanics. There is will to be great. How many times has everyone seen high round quarterback drafted only become bust?

Josh Allen is a unicorn.  What he's done has never happened before in NFL history so the likelihood it happens again is VERY, VERY slim.

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3 hours ago, Rochesterny said:

There is will to be great. How many times has everyone seen high round quarterback drafted only become bust?

There's a reason it's so hard to project college QBs to the NFL:  it's much easier to play QB in college and much harder to field a really good defense.  There's a reason most really good NFL QBs didn't win National Championships and guys like Stetson Bennett do.

 

The better college teams are just loaded with talent, especially at the skill positions so they just need a good game manager who doesn't make a ton of mistakes to distribute the ball.  You can look at Saban's Tide and Ohio State since way back to Urban Meyer to see the formula.

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3 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

There's a reason it's so hard to project college QBs to the NFL:  it's much easier to play QB in college and much harder to field a really good defense.  There's a reason most really good NFL QBs didn't win National Championships and guys like Stetson Bennett do.

 

The better college teams are just loaded with talent, especially at the skill positions so they just need a good game manager who doesn't make a ton of mistakes to distribute the ball.  You can look at Saban's Tide and Ohio State since way back to Urban Meyer to see the formula.

Excellent point. Well taken. 

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11 hours ago, Rochesterny said:

Still mind boggling they took zack over Micah parsons, Jamarr chase, and jaylen waddle. IMO whether drafted in first round or 7th round once player drafted still need to compete for the starting role. Nothing is given. It start with off-season to training camp. Just because drafted in first round does not mean you do not have to compete. Need drive and perseverance. Zack should study josh Allen trajectory. Josh has done everything needed to be done as quarterback should do. Not only using talent but in film room studying and working with coach to improve mechanics. There is will to be great. How many times has everyone seen high round quarterback drafted only become bust?

They were frantically in a panic because they didn’t have a “Franchise quarterback“. 
 

Their FO doesn’t know how to build a team. I’ve seen this kind of thing in places like cooking classes. Everyone gets the same ingredients and are left on their own to produce. Some people make masterpieces, others make breadcrumbs. The JESTS are making PlayDough. 

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13 minutes ago, Nanker said:

They were frantically in a panic because they didn’t have a “Franchise quarterback“. 
 

Their FO doesn’t know how to build a team. I’ve seen this kind of thing in places like cooking classes. Everyone gets the same ingredients and are left on their own to produce. Some people make masterpieces, others make breadcrumbs. The JESTS are making PlayDough. 

Saleh seems to be someone that might make a very good head coach but the Jests never seem to give their head coach the kind of support they need. BTW, that's fine with me.

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