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11 hours ago, Ann said:

Bills waiting for clarity on training camp roster size before signing rookie free agents
 

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Bills General Manager Brandon Beane said on WGR 550 on Wednesday that the team is also holding off for the moment.  </snip>
 

The NFL allowed teams to carry 90 players to camp, but they had to work in split squads with that many on the roster. Teams with 80 players could work as one squad and word on that came after the undrafted free agent signing period, which left the Bills and others cutting players to get to that limit. Beane wants to avoid doing that again.
 

“One of the things we’re doing research on is, last year, the league and the union made us reduce our rosters down to 80 to start camp, instead of 90,” Beane said, via Jay Skurski of the Buffalo News. “There’s been uncertainty whether it could be a different number than 90. Is it 85, is it 80? We’re going to try and monitor that before we push the roster up to 90.”
 

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How can that level of uncertainty exist in the modern NFL? That’s idiotic. 
 

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5 hours ago, Nanker said:

How can that level of uncertainty exist in the modern NFL? That’s idiotic. 
 

 

Well, when you're dealing with arbitrary regulations made by idiots in the name of "science", and throw in a union that is trying to cause problems in the name of "safety"...

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The Athletic (paid site) article of NFL execs draft comments from the 2021 draft. This is for all 32 teams. I am putting it here because the Bills write up is the only one I am posting.

 

Execs Unfiltered on NFL Draft
 

The Bills’ 27-24 victory against Indianapolis in the wild-card round last season helped set the draft order for both teams, which became notable as both Buffalo and Indianapolis targeted defensive linemen in the first two rounds. How did the Bills fare relative to Indy after beating the Colts and winning another playoff game?

 

Gregory Rousseau (30th) and Carlos Basham (61st) were the defensive ends Buffalo selected after the Colts took Kwity Paye (21st) and Dayo Odeyingbo (54th).
 

“Kwity Paye and Dayo are significantly better than Rousseau and ‘Boogie’ Basham,” an exec said. “Rousseau is developmental. Long, lean defensive end who is not particularly physical or violent. I would rather have the Indy guys because they present more of a physical play style.”
 

Teams looking for defensive linemen had to hurry. Buffalo, Indy, New Orleans, Baltimore and Tampa were among the 2020 playoff teams selecting defensive end types between picks 21-32.
 

“Sean McDermott has coached linebackers, he has coached the secondary and he knows it’s so much easier to play defense when the other QB is under duress, so they go D-line early,” an exec said. “Sean also knows it’s a lot better for his own personal EKG when his quarterback stands in a facsimile of a pocket and delivers the ball on time rather than running around, so their next two picks are for the o-line.”
 

Rousseau joins Tre’Davious White (27th in 2017), Tremaine Edmunds (16th in 2018) and Ed Oliver (9th in 2019) as defensive first-round picks for Buffalo since McDermott became coach. Quarterback Josh Allen is the only offensive first-round pick for McDermott’s Bills.
 

“Buffalo’s picks fit the head coach,” an evaluator said. “Defensive head coach, they go defense. They already have a good scheme, they already have a good understanding of what makes for a good fit in their system. And there they go, they get two guys who the head coach clearly has a vision for — seems pretty good.”
 

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On 5/6/2021 at 6:43 AM, Koko said:

 

Well, when you're dealing with arbitrary regulations made by idiots in the name of "science", and throw in a union that is trying to cause problems in the name of "safety"...

 

Just like the politicians, the union is simply using the opportunity to attempt to expand their influence.

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https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/10/what-picks-2022-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-currently-have/?utm_source=FOX_Sports

 

The 2021 NFL draft just came and went. The Bills had eight total selections made after entering the draft with seven picks.

In 2022, the Bills already have one extra spot and even though we’re still very far away from even thinking about the ensuing draft… let’s do a quick rundown anyway.

Here’s all the Bills’ selections at the now upcoming 2022 NFL draft:

  • Round 1: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 2: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 3: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 4: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 5: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 6: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 7: Bills’ original selection
  • Round 7 (via ATL): Conditional draft pick via Lee Smith trade to Falcons
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From the Athletic (paid site)
 

What we’ve learned about Brandon Beane and the NFL Draft in 4 years as Bills GM
 

Brandon Beane now has four drafts as a general manager of the Bills. While predicting what he’ll do hasn’t been the easiest task over the last few years, there have been some patterns to how he behaves in the draft. The longer a general manager is employed and the more draft picks he makes, the better picture we get of tendencies and preferences when scouting players.
 

Beane has also evolved. He’s had the benefit of having mostly the same scouting staff around him for each of the last four years, and Sean McDermott’s coaching staff has stayed consistent as well.
 

“Our first draft was 2018, so I think we’ve learned how to set the board,” Beane said. “Some scouts grade a little harder, some grade a little less. But we’ve also had continuity with the coaching staff. And so, understanding what Leslie Frazier is looking for out of a nickel, out of a safety, out of pass rush in, versatility. What Brian Daboll is looking at in his linemen. How does he want these guys to do their pass sets, what the run game should look like? Obviously, the variety of receivers. So I think it all has made it an easier process of us understanding what they’re looking for and them understanding how we scout, how we gather information.
 

“It definitely gets easier each time. The main thing is to set your board right so that once you get on the clock, once you just see it fall, you follow your board.”
 

The draft night tendencies haven’t changed much for Beane in four years, but the team has shown a willingness to take prospects with a variety of profiles. Some are athletic marvels who need development. Others are ready to play early but may not have the upside. He’s not locked into a certain type of player, necessarily.
 

“It’s really just set the board and trust it,” Beane said before the draft. “Let the board tell you what to do.”

Here’s what we’ve learned about Beane and how he sets that board over the last four years.
 

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What 'we' have learned is broken down after this...

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Immnot a fan of our draft this year. Developmental prospects on DL. Projects at OL. 

 

I don't think these guys can come in an contribute soon enough for it to make a difference. They're going to end up like Lawson and so many other Bills cashing in on their way out.

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1 hour ago, Boyst said:

Immnot a fan of our draft this year. Developmental prospects on DL. Projects at OL. 

 

I don't think these guys can come in an contribute soon enough for it to make a difference. They're going to end up like Lawson and so many other Bills cashing in on their way out.

 

I'm not sure I'm with you there. Time might prove you right, of course, but Rousseau and Basham can each contribute right away in the DL rotation, and Stevenson will likely be in the mix for returner duties when the training camp dust settles. The way the Bills rotate on the DL makes it likely that Basham and Rousseau will have every opportunity to contribute. If they can combine to generate 3-5 more pressures a game than the team was getting last year (not impossible to imagine), then their impact could be major.  Brown and Doyle are longer term investments, no question, but OL tend to take the longest to develop anyway unless they're named Quenton Nelson. 

 

Getting three -- maybe four if Wildgoose impresses -- contributors out of this draft seems possible, if not likely. And to get that on a roster as stacked as the Bills', while picking 30 (without moving up), is pretty impressive. 

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4 hours ago, Ann said:

“It definitely gets easier each time. The main thing is to set your board right so that once you get on the clock, once you just see it fall, you follow your board.”

 

That's the way to do it. I never understood how teams could spend months (if not years) scouting prospects and setting boards, to disregard them and make wacky moves to reach for players on draft day.

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22 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I'm not sure I'm with you there. Time might prove you right, of course, but Rousseau and Basham can each contribute right away in the DL rotation, and Stevenson will likely be in the mix for returner duties when the training camp dust settles. The way the Bills rotate on the DL makes it likely that Basham and Rousseau will have every opportunity to contribute. If they can combine to generate 3-5 more pressures a game than the team was getting last year (not impossible to imagine), then their impact could be major.  Brown and Doyle are longer term investments, no question, but OL tend to take the longest to develop anyway unless they're named Quenton Nelson. 

 

Getting three -- maybe four if Wildgoose impresses -- contributors out of this draft seems possible, if not likely. And to get that on a roster as stacked as the Bills', while picking 30 (without moving up), is pretty impressive. 

always  laugher when fans trash the draft, primarily because not enough flashy skill players were picked

yet same  fans will moan that Bills can't stop the run and don't get enough sacks

 

The Bills got 2 OL that with proper coaching are expected to replace big contract guys in then not too distant future. 

 

because of Covid, the Bills got prospects a round or two later than if they had played in 2020 and put tape with their tremendous physical skills 

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49 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

always  laugher when fans trash the draft, primarily because not enough flashy skill players were picked

yet same  fans will moan that Bills can't stop the run and don't get enough sacks

 

The Bills got 2 OL that with proper coaching are expected to replace big contract guys in then not too distant future. 

 

because of Covid, the Bills got prospects a round or two later than if they had played in 2020 and put tape with their tremendous physical skills 


That could very well make some of these players steals.

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