[positional grouping] Bills Secondary

[Alaska Darin]

Sixth...

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

9 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Sixth...

 

 

 

Miami's fifth.  And yet...

 

[Ann]

54 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Sixth...

 

 

Sixth? 

[Alaska Darin]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

5 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

 

 

When he's right, he's right. 

 

There isn't a duo that comes close over the past 5 years. Individual play, maybe. Duo? Not even a contest. 

 

 

[Ann]

Secondary

How these Bills cornerbacks plan to compete for a starting role | Camp Countdown 2022
 

 

[Ann]

Bills safety Jordan Poyer on Buffalo's Super Bowl hopes, overcoming alcoholism | Inside the Garage

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

On 6/28/2022 at 12:51 PM, Ann said:

Secondary

How these Bills cornerbacks plan to compete for a starting role | Camp Countdown 2022
 

 

 

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Neal believes that his versatility is one of his biggest strengths on the football field.

 

On the roster, sure.

 

On the field?  I love him on special teams...but Siran, you scare the living hell out of me at corner.

[Night Owl]

On 6/27/2022 at 12:35 PM, Alaska Darin said:

Sixth...

 

 

If Tre wasn't recovering from an ACL injury I'd write a very opinionated letter to pff.  Sixth is fair given we don't know what Elam will be yet.

[Ann]

On 6/27/2022 at 11:35 AM, Alaska Darin said:

Sixth...

 

 

 

Poyer is correct

 

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

Bucky Brooks has them as the #1 safety duo:

2022 NFL season: Ranking top duos at 11 key position groups

 

1. Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer

 

Every defensive coordinator covets smart, tough and productive safeties in the defensive backfield. The Bills are the envy of the league with a pair of veterans at the position with high IQs, outstanding ball skills and rock-solid tackling ability. Hyde, 31, is the leader of the group with a versatile game that enables him to roam from the deep middle to the slot as a designated playmaker. The former cornerback-turned-safety is an exceptional defender with a knack for finding the ball. Poyer, 31, is a crafty defender with outstanding instincts and anticipation. The All-Pro quickly diagnoses the action and finds a way to get to the ball. As interchangeable defenders with the capacity to fill a variety of roles based on matchup or game plan, the Bills' safety tandem has helped key the team's resurgence as a title contender.  

 

[Ann]

Bills Safeties Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde are difficult to fool


 

 

[Foxx]

This can only help Jordan's desire for a new contract.

 

The NFL's top 13 safeties

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... 12. Micah Hyde, Buffalo Bills

 

Hyde ranked seventh on our safety list last year after a 2020 season in which he allowed 15 catches on 27 targets for 143 yards, 46 yards after the catch, one touchdown, one interception, and an opponent passer rating of 67.4. In 2021, Hyde was more opportunistic and more vulnerable, which puts him a bit below where he was before.

 

As one half of the NFL’s best safety tandem (along with Jordan Poyer, who you’ll see later on the list), Hyde played all over the field while Poyer played mostly free safety. Hyde had 278 snaps in the box, 185 in the slot, 628 at free safety, 51 at the line, and four at outside cornerback. And on all those snaps, he allowed 20 catches on 29 targets for 211 yards, 38 yards after the catch, four touchdowns, six interceptions, and an opponent passer rating of 89.9. Not quite the shutdown performer he was in 2020, but Hyde was also responsible for many more takeaways.

 

Hyde made Mac Jones’ life particularly miserable, as the Patriots’ rookie quarterback gave up three picks to him — two in Week 16, and one in Buffalo’s wild-card win. The wild-card pick came with Hyde as the deep safety, and Nelson Agholor beating cornerback Levi Wallace downfield. That didn’t matter, because Hyde zoomed over to take the ball away. ...

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... 1. Jordan Poyer, Buffalo Bills

 

And now, we enter the realm of the truly preposterous. Poyer is one half of the NFL’s best safety duo with Micah Hyde, which may be why he’s serially underrated. There’s also the perception that he’s not a great run defender, but when you have a deep defender like this, dinging him for that is very much like complaining because you can’t tow anything with your Lamborghini.

Last season, Poyer allowed 13 catches on 28 targets for 61 yards, 40 air yards, no touchdowns, five interceptions, and an opponent passer rating of,,,

 

,,,wait for it…

 

13.7. 

 

Folks, that just doesn’t happen. Among safeties who played at least 50% of their teams’ defensive snaps in 2021, Devin McCourty ranked second with a 31.8 opponent passer rating allowed. Marcus Williams ranked third at 54.2, just so you know what we’re dealing with here. As an NFL quarterback, you’d be three times better off throwing the ball in to Section 320 than you would be in targeting Poyer. This came after a couple of seasons in which Poyer was more exposed in coverage, but the tape seems to show that this isn’t a one-year wonder.

 

Poyer was effective all over the field, but he was especially effective when playing deep. On targets of 20 or more air yards, he allowed no catches on five targets… and had one interception. This pass breakup against Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski in Week 14 shows how great Poyer is at all that. Poyer velcroed himself to Gronk through the end of the route, and had the presence of mind to stick a hand out to eliminate any possibility of a catch. ...

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[Alaska Darin]

 

[Beer__League__Hockey]

1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said:

 

 

That is some high level zone disguise right there.  Tua was cornfused.

[Alaska Darin]

 

[Ann]

He's pretty good. I have no idea why they are waiting on a  new contract. 
 

 

[Alaska Darin]

 

[Alaska Darin]

Typical GMBB draft pick...just oozes "chip on my shoulder."

 

 

[Alaska Darin]

Pitts Alumni training together.  I'm really hoping Hamlin develops because he was a really physical dude in college and he's already shown some of that in Buffalo.