Dubs Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I love this study. Not surprisingly, New York is last in the USA. New Hampshire is tops, followed by Florida, Nevada, Tennessee, and South Dakota. https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 It would be great if they did a special edition of this to include the Covid regime, but as far as I can tell that was not factored into the analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dubs said: I love this study. Not surprisingly, New York is last in the USA. New Hampshire is tops, followed by Florida, Nevada, Tennessee, and South Dakota. https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ I wonder how NY changes if you take NYC out of the calculation. And Hawaii is #49...but I wonder if that changes if you eliminate ecological regulation from consideration (which is pretty hefty, since they go to decent lengths to protect the island ecology.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I wonder how NY changes if you take NYC out of the calculation. Good question. Whoa the difference between fiscal and personal in some of these states: Texas #12 for fiscal, but #49 for personal Idaho #11 for fiscal, but #42 for personal New Mexico #48 for fiscal, but #5 for personal Vermont #46 for fiscal, #4 for personal Only a few states like NY, Hawaii, Delaware, South Carolina, Mississippi and Kansas suck for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I wonder how NY changes if you take NYC out of the calculation. And Hawaii is #49...but I wonder if that changes if you eliminate ecological regulation from consideration (which is pretty hefty, since they go to decent lengths to protect the island ecology.) anecdotal evidence from Erie County would suggest if you categorized the county as a state, it would rank 51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) On 12/6/2021 at 11:04 AM, Dubs said: I love this study. Not surprisingly, New York is last in the USA. New Hampshire is tops, followed by Florida, Nevada, Tennessee, and South Dakota. https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ This comes from the Cato Institute, which is libertarian. I am not a libertarian, and I disagree with many of the assumptions they made when computing their index. For example they think that taxes or restrictions on cigarettes are bad, and the freedom to smoke them is good. But if I’m standing right next to a man smoking a cigarette, his freedom to smoke deletes my freedom to breathe clean air. This is not a factor they considered. Other freedoms they considered were the freedom to do recreational drugs, freedom to gamble, and freedom for illegal aliens to receive drivers licenses. There were times when unimportant freedoms diluted important ones. For example part of their index was calculated on the basis of whether physicians assistants and nurse practitioners had the freedom to prescribe medicines. “Land use freedom,” whatever that is, was weighted more heavily than local taxes. If you look at NYS, one of the primary sources of government oppression is property tax. A better freedom index would avoid the mistake of diluting important questions with unimportant ones. The questions I would focus on are these. 1) What is government spending as a percentage of median income? 2) Of that spending how much goes towards things intended to benefit the people paying the taxes? 3) What is government’s total burden on business, especially small business? 4) Education. What options does the government give parents for school choice, or homeschooling, or other ways of avoiding the poison of critical race theory? 5) Are there examples of unprovoked nastiness I should know about, such as putting people in jail for an unpaid spending ticket? 6) Does the state believe its citizens deserve protection against violent crime? If so, it should be making a serious effort to lock up violent criminals for long periods of time. Also, it should allow its citizens the use of firearms, and should permit them to use those firearms to defend themselves, their homes, and their families against criminal attack. It is my belief New York State deserves failing grades on all six of these questions. It is an oppressive state in just about every way a state can be oppressive. Edited December 22, 2021 by Arm of Harm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 California #48?!? That's ridiculous!! I'm free to go pitch a tent on the sidewalk and have all sorts of moron do-gooders file lawsuits on my behalf. I'm free to round up some buddies and go loot a local mall. I'm free to drop trou and take a shit on the sidewalk right in front of a crowd of people.....what more could you want? How exactly are these idiots defining freedom these days?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Adding numbers next to arbitrary categories does not make a scientific study. Texas at #49 for personal makes no sense. Living in both NY and Texas, Texas is light years ahead on the personal side. Room for improvement, sure like everything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nouseforaname Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Foxx said: Yes but who is in control of the Kandahar giants ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Yes but who is in control of the Kandahar giants ? Which bathroom do they use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Foxx said: Which bathroom do they use? The ones where you sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: The ones where you sit down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 I……love New Yoooooorrrkk! https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Dubs said: I……love New Yoooooorrrkk! https://www.freedominthe50states.org/ Still worth stopping at joes pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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