Change the OT Rules in the Playoffs?

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25 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

I'm never a big fan of "change the rules because you didn't get the result you want."

 

But the league's been changing the rules of play over the past couple of decades to favor offensive production.  Compared to even 30 years ago, "defense wins championships" is less true, and offensive production gets teams to the playoffs and Super Bowl.

 

Ultimately meaning that, particularly in the playoffs, when offense gets you there, the team that gets the ball first in OT should be heavily favored to win.  The "sudden death overtime" is a holdover to several decades ago when the 100 yards/game receivers and 300 yards/game passers were exceptional, rather than all but common.  Clearly, the OT rules don't fit the modern game as structured.  

This is a fantastic point.

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13 hours ago, Figster said:

Overtime rules are pathetic. Whats fair about losing the game on a coin toss? Whomever won the toss was going to win. 3rd grader could come up with better rules. Seriously.

The rule is fine.

Play some defense and make a stop.  It’s half of the team.  Half of the game, FFS.
 

And if you can’t stop them, you lose — like we did (breaks down into uncontrollable sobbing).

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Taro T said:

2.  Not because the D is gassed or whatever, but just to let the teams regroup, would add at least a 5 minute wait & likely 10 minutes, before beginning playoff OT.  Might break up a bit of that momentum that teams seem to get on at the end.

You mean like run the Zamboni out there for a fresh sheet?

 

[Ann]

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[Billsandhorns]

19 minutes ago, Ann said:

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Could the OT rules be updated, yes. Using the not fair argument loses me though. Life in general is not fair

[Foxx]

The Athletic had an article that discusses an option for overtime change that I hadn't heard of before, it sounds interesting but certainly wouldn't address the matter of both teams posessing the ball. Nonetheless, since that portion of the article is behind a paywall, I'll quote it here but the entire article is worth a read.

 

Let's fix NFL overtime

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... Chaos fix: Silent yard auction. The auction concept has been around for more than a decade at this point, with myriad permutations. It even reached the halls of academia (NYU published a study, as did Cal). 
 

I prefer the Cal edition, which proposes that each team submit a bid at the beginning of overtime on the yard line where it would like to start. The team with the closest bid to its own end zone wins and receives the ball first, at that yard line. Overtime is sudden death from there. 

The auction system successfully eliminates the randomness of a coin toss while adding a fascinating layer of strategy. The closer you get to your own end zone, the more you compromise potential  field position. The farther away you get, the higher the chance of the other team getting the ball first.

A fun wrinkle the researchers include: giving the ball to the team that bids closest to its own end zone, but making the yard line the average of the two bids. Interesting, but maybe a little complex. ... 

 

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All this talk is ridiculous, so I'm making a ridiculous proposal for the rule change:

Have three ringside judges score the game from a style perspective.  Go to the judges' scorecards if the game ends in a tie.

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Foxx said:

The Athletic had an article that discusses an option for overtime change that I hadn't heard of before, it sounds interesting but certainly wouldn't address the matter of both teams posessing the ball. Nonetheless, since that portion of the article is behind a paywall, I'll quote it here but the entire article is worth a read.

 

Let's fix NFL overtime

 

if your offense is playing unstoppable, is there anywhere on the field that you don't want the ball, knowing that if you score you win?

[Taro T]

17 hours ago, snafu said:

You mean like run the Zamboni out there for a fresh sheet?

 

 

Something like that.

[Core Four]

Interesting conversation on the Pat McAfee show regarding playoff OT rules and the Chiefs vs Bills situation.  Not sure who the guest is (Darius something) but he tore apart Frazier's scheme in OT.  If I did this right, it should start at the 9:00 mark.  Relevant conversation goes to around the 10:30 mark.

 

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Core Four

[Keukasmallie]

I don't think of the Bills - Chiefs game as ending; I think of it as stopped.  

 

Yeah, I know, it'll be a long time before it starts up again.  Change the NFL's OT rules, absolutely.  Does anyone really think that Josh wouldn't have engineered a touchdown in an equal opportunity OT given the two minutes prior to OT?

 

It's a lot like selling tickets to a game then declaring a winner after the first offensive series to record a score.  Ah Bi Dee, Bi Dee that's all folks! 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Keukasmallie

[Figster]

16 hours ago, Keukasmallie said:

I don't think of the Bills - Chiefs game as ending; I think of it as stopped.  

 

Yeah, I know, it'll be a long time before it starts up again.  Change the NFL's OT rules, absolutely.  Does anyone really think that Josh wouldn't have engineered a touchdown in an equal opportunity OT given the two minutes prior to OT?

 

It's a lot like selling tickets to a game then declaring a winner after the first offensive series to record a score.  Ah Bi Dee, Bi Dee that's all folks! 

When even the winner of the games HC is questioning OT rules after the game you know somethings wrong.

 

To me its an easy fix. Keep possession equal back and forth until the tie is broken. It allows different strategies to take place so you still need the coin toss. Going 2nd knowing If you need a TD or FG makes winning the toss important. 4 down territory.

 

Easy fix, and a no brainer doing so IMO. Anyone voting against it has a gambling problem.

[Ann]

"Full on shoot out"

On Jim Rome (via vimeo):

Gabriel Davis on NFL Overtime

 

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