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Why the wrong side won World War II


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- Stalin came to power in 1922. He soon embraced a pattern of mass murder. 

- Stalin’s most prominent act of mass murder was the Ukrainian famine (1932 - ‘33).  This artificial famine killed an estimated 7 million innocent people. 


- In Western democracies, the response of Establishment politicians and mainstream media outlets was to cover up the Ukrainian famine and other acts of Soviet mass murder. 


- Throughout the ‘30s, leaders of Western democracies attempted to ally their nations with the Soviet Union, while ignoring the fact Stalin had murdered more people than had any prior ruler in human history. These efforts mostly failed, and that failure was due to Stalin’s lack of interest. 


- National Socialist (Nazi) Germany did not engage in mass murder prior to the start of WWII. 


- In 1939, Daladier and Chamberlain (leaders of France and Britain) lied to Poland’s leaders, promising a major French offensive against Germany within 15 days of mobilization. The falsely promised offensive had been central to Poland’s diplomatic and military strategy. 


- Upon declaring war, Chamberlain imposed a naval blockade against Germany. 


- About a year into the war, Churchill became prime minister in place of Chamberlain. On coming to power, Churchill added food to the list of contraband items. Germany could no longer import food. 


- German-occupied Europe lacked the farmland necessary to feed all the people. At the end of 1940, Herbert Hoover warned that if the war was long continued, the result would be the worst famine in human history. 


- The artificial famine caused by the Churchill/FDR food blockade resulted in a much larger death toll than the Ukrainian famine. Most victims were Slavs. 


- From 1945 - ‘48, the Truman administration used food as a weapon against postwar Germany. The death toll of JCS 1067 may have exceeded that of the Ukrainian famine. 


- In the decades which followed WWII, Western democracies radicalized their immigration policies, beginning the Great Replacement. 
 

Had the Germans conquered Britain in 1940, the worst famine in human history would have been avoided. Extermination bombing raids, directed at the heart of Europe, would not have happened. The Great Replacement would not have happened. 
 

 

 

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Nouseforaname

Nice to see the diversity of thought still going on in this forum  🙄

 

Just change your avatar to a swastika while you’re at it.

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2 hours ago, Nouseforaname said:

Nice to see the diversity of thought still going on in this forum  🙄

 

Just change your avatar to a swastika while you’re at it.

You shit post reply to too damn much. Gtfo or get over yourself already. The cult of personality heir of bullshit you espouse is annoying. Linger and lurk. 

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Nouseforaname
6 minutes ago, Boyst said:

You shit post reply to too damn much. Gtfo or get over yourself already. The cult of personality heir of bullshit you espouse is annoying. Linger and lurk. 


Why don’t you go &#%$ yourself ?

 

Calling out a nazi is shit posting 😂😂😂 that’s rich

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Arm of Harm
2 hours ago, Nouseforaname said:


Why don’t you go &#%$ yourself ?

 

Calling out a nazi is shit posting 😂😂😂 that’s rich

 

I made a number of statements about history. Maybe you agreed with some of those statements, disagreed with others. There was an opportunity here for a robust discussion of arguably the most important war in human history. That discussion could have been worthwhile reading for those wandering into this thread. Instead you chose to pass up that opportunity, and make what you believed to be a personal attack. Boyst can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's why he called you out. 

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TakeYouToTasker 2.0

Communists aside, “I wish Nazi Germany had won World War Two” is the take that I made popcorn for.

 

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6 hours ago, Arm of Harm said:

 

I made a number of statements about history. Maybe you agreed with some of those statements, disagreed with others. There was an opportunity here for a robust discussion of arguably the most important war in human history. That discussion could have been worthwhile reading for those wandering into this thread. Instead you chose to pass up that opportunity, and make what you believed to be a personal attack. Boyst can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's why he called you out. 


Sure thing nazi.

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17 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said:


Sure thing nazi.

Please at least make the attempt to keep the discourse civil.

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Nouseforaname
11 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Please at least make the attempt to keep the discourse civil.


Watch me.  I got ripped into by some of the posters for much less than someone literally talking about great replacement theory. 
 

It really says a lot.  

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Crap Throwing Clavin

Why does this shit post have eight replies already?

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Nouseforaname
7 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

Why does this shit post have eight replies already?


Because I lack civility.

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TakeYouToTasker 2.0
11 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

Why does this shit post have eight replies already?


Any time someone makes separate posts, including a fresh thread, in a span of less than 24 hours, stating that blacks are intellectually inferior to other races, and that they wish the Nazi’s had conquered Europe, I don’t mind keeping that kind of spectacle at the top of the page for a few days.

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Crap Throwing Clavin
1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker 2.0 said:


Any time someone makes separate posts, including a fresh thread, in a span of less than 24 hours, stating that blacks are intellectually inferior to other races,

 

Inferior, on average.  Statistically inferior. Consider the source.

 

We're going to end up talking about the "heritability" of intelligence in East German scientists again.  That's how the whole "rolling a 3.5 on a die" thing got started last time. 

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Arm of Harm

There are multiple versions of Marxism. Version 1 involved Marx, Engles, Das Kapital, and The Communist Manifesto. The goal of version 1 communism was economic equality. The objects of their hostility included capitalists, the nobility, and the clergy. 
 

Marxism version 2 was originally called critical theory, and has since evolved into critical race theory. The goal of Marxism version 2 is not economic equality: it is the downfall of Western Civilization. The object of version 2’s hostility is the white race. Concepts like white guilt and white privilege are important to version 2. 
 

If a version 1 Marxist wanted to insult you, they might call you a capitalist pig. If a version 2 Marxist wanted to insult you, they’d call you a racist. 
 

Stalin’s government was basically Marxism version 1. Today, most Western democracies are Marxism version 2. They’ve embraced Great Replacement immigration, and often teach critical race theory to children. But, what label should we apply to the ideology of the Western democratic leaders of WWII?

 

The full answer to that question is complex; and most of those replying to this thread have shown more interest in regurgitating Leftist propaganda than they have in complexity or nuance. The short answer is that the dominant ideology of the Western democratic leadership during WWII could be considered Marxism version 2, albeit in embryonic form. 
 

To the extent that’s true, the National Socialists fought against Marxism. Not Marxism + Western democracy. Just Marxism. Democracy by itself is an empty vessel, into which an ideology can be poured. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer were democratically elected. The leaders of the Confederate States of America were also democratically elected. No overlap between the ideology of the former and the latter.
 

The Union’s war against the Confederacy was not a war against democracy. It was a war against the ideology of the Confederacy, and the slavery which stemmed from that ideology. In resisting invasion by the Western democracies, the National Socialists were not waging war against democracy. They were waging war against Marxism version 2. Marxism version 2 is by far the most evil ideology to ever exert major influence. 

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Crap Throwing Clavin

Everyone...don't reply.

 

If we're really quiet, maybe he'll just sniff us and go away.

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Arm of Harm
7 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

Everyone...don't reply.

 

If we're really quiet, maybe he'll just sniff us and go away.


The above is your third reply to this thread, in the space of just four hours. 😛 

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Robs House

OP, you cannot have a thoughtful discussion on this matter because the cartoon version of history that we live by is so ingrained and so taboo that anything other than blanket black-and-white denunciation of one side in favor of the other reaps nothing but scorn.  In reality events like WW2 are extremely complex with lots of nuance and moral ambiguity, but in the modern world there's no place for that. There's nothing to be learned from history, only virtue to be extracted from its exploitation.

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4 minutes ago, Robs House said:

OP, you cannot have a thoughtful discussion on this matter because the cartoon version of history that we live by is so ingrained and so taboo that anything other than blanket black-and-white denunciation of one side in favor of the other reaps nothing but scorn.  In reality events like WW2 are extremely complex with lots of nuance and moral ambiguity, but in the modern world there's no place for that. There's nothing to be learned from history, only virtue to be extracted from its exploitation.

 

He's also massively ill-informed on the matter, and ill-equipped to have a thoughtful discussion on anything.

 

That's a tad more relevant than your observation.

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