Supreme Court of the United States

[IDBillzFan]

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

SCOTUS Rulings That Leftists Hate.

 

Come for the meltdowns. Stay for the hot takes.

 

 

 

That's a seriously &#%$ing horrible argument.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

22 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

 

I've never seen the "diversity is our strength" argument ever actually work.  Diversity in these groups are usually a weakness...because it's diversity of form, not substance.  It ain't diversity if you look different, but all think alike.  Which is a pretty good functional description of Harvard.

 

And it's not a great look for Harvard Law if Harvard's explicitly saying "We're going to still practice race-based admissions in direct violation of the Supreme Court's decision."  They're get their asses sued off by the first Hispanic man applicant who's denied a spot over a lesser qualified black woman.

[snafu]

I need to read this decision.  Not really looking forward to 100 pages of Affirmative Action debate.  I'm really on the fence about Affirmative Action -- always have been.  I got into a conversation today with a Nigerian/UK immigrant friend of mine.  He brought up the decision and he's outraged by it.  I brought up the point that Affirmative action shouldn't be used as a tool to have a positive impact on one single minority at the expense of another, and it seems at though that's what was going on with admissions.

 

I wonder whether this decision will affect other Title VI areas, like employment mandates and government contracting processes, not to mention gender equality.

 

Then there's this take:

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-killed-affirmative-action/

 

With this headline (which doesn't sound quite right to me):

The Supreme Court Has Killed Affirmative Action. Mediocre Whites Can Rest Easier.

 

Written by an African American Harvard / Harvard Law Grad.

His premise is that he's smart enough to be a Harvard Grad.  He doesn't want people to presume that he's a dumber subset of Ivy League graduate because Affirmative Action exists, and dumb bigots make presumptions like that.   He never argues that he wouldn't have gotten into Harvard but for Affirmative Action. So I don't know what he's saying.  He wants Affirmative Action to continue, but he seems to really resent it.

 

 

 

[snafu]

35 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

I've never seen the "diversity is our strength" argument ever actually work.  Diversity in these groups are usually a weakness...because it's diversity of form, not substance.  It ain't diversity if you look different, but all think alike.  Which is a pretty good functional description of Harvard.

 

Higher Ed institutions gave up on diversity of thought a long time ago.  But they do want diverse participants so they can  each take the same message back to their respective communities.

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

39 minutes ago, snafu said:

I need to read this decision.  Not really looking forward to 100 pages of Affirmative Action debate.  I'm really on the fence about Affirmative Action -- always have been.  I got into a conversation today with a Nigerian/UK immigrant friend of mine.  He brought up the decision and he's outraged by it.  I brought up the point that Affirmative action shouldn't be used as a tool to have a positive impact on one single minority at the expense of another, and it seems at though that's what was going on with admissions.

 

I wonder whether this decision will affect other Title VI areas, like employment mandates and government contracting processes, not to mention gender equality.

 

Then there's this take:

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-killed-affirmative-action/

 

With this headline (which doesn't sound quite right to me):

The Supreme Court Has Killed Affirmative Action. Mediocre Whites Can Rest Easier.

 

Written by an African American Harvard / Harvard Law Grad.

His premise is that he's smart enough to be a Harvard Grad.  He doesn't want people to presume that he's a dumber subset of Ivy League graduate because Affirmative Action exists, and dumb bigots make presumptions like that.   He never argues that he wouldn't have gotten into Harvard but for Affirmative Action. So I don't know what he's saying.  He wants Affirmative Action to continue, but he seems to really resent it.

 

 

 

 

My take on Affirmative Action is very simple: useful to level a slanted playing field, becomes counterproductive when it ceases to be leveling and instead becomes a crutch. 

 

That progressives are arguing today that "blacks are too inferior to succeed with out it" pretty clearly indicates to me that it's become a crutch.

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

My take on Affirmative Action is very simple: useful to level a slanted playing field, becomes counterproductive when it ceases to be leveling and instead becomes a crutch. 

 

That progressives are arguing today that "blacks are too inferior to succeed with out it" pretty clearly indicates to me that it's become a crutch.

 

Keep in mind, these are the same people who insist voter ID laws suppress the votes of black Americans because most of them just don't have a valid ID.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

57 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Keep in mind, these are the same people who insist voter ID laws suppress the votes of black Americans because most of them just don't have a valid ID.

 

I've got a black cousin (don't know if I've discussed it before: my aunt married a black guy, had a kid, divorced the black guy, met a Jewish guy, had another kid out of wedlock, then married the Jewish guy.  I think she may have been trying to kill my German grandfather.)  The next time he or any other liberal in my family dreams of spouting off about voter ID laws suppressing black votes, I'm coming back with "Gee, I'm sorry Nate is too stupid to get a picture ID."

 

American liberals are racist as shit.  (I was going to say some of the most racist people on the planet...but all of us Americans routinely understate how racist the rest of the world is.)

[Alaska Darin]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

Americans routinely understate how racist the rest of the world is.)

People who haven't traveled have no clue what you're talking about but I've been all over the world and America is BY FAR the least racist place on earth.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

17 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

People who haven't traveled have no clue what you're talking about but I've been all over the world and America is BY FAR the least racist place on earth.

 

I haven't traveled...but all you have to do is talk to immigrants and ask a few questions. 

 

The racism of Africans towards other Africans is something to behold, that most Americans don't understand since we lump them all together as "blacks."  And that's despite the Rwandan genocide.

 

Americans are, simply, ignorant.

[IDBillzFan]

Man, if the left went nuts over the affirmative action ruling, they're going to Biden-level shit themselves over this.

 

 

[Uncle Joe]

Imagine a land where the President cannot legislate new laws..e.g. debt forgiveness for student loans.

[Ann]

14 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Imagine a land where the President cannot legislate new laws..e.g. debt forgiveness for student loans.

That one was a no-brainer.  The power of the purse lays with the House. How those three thought otherwise, is a real question.

6-3 decision

[B-Man]

 

 

 

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[Uncle Joe]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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TGFT.

[B-Man]

 

 

Yipes !

 

 

FTA:

 

Chief Justice John Roberts delivered a scathing response to the liberal justices in Thursday’s Affirmative Action decision, accusing them of burying a power grab in the dissents penned by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson, with Justice Elena Kagan concurring.

 

Roberts addressed the dissent on page 46 of his opinion, saying that the Justices had divorced the case from the context in a concerted effort to make the Court the arbiter of which race[s] were entitled to preferential treatment.

 

“The principal dissent wrenches our case law from its context, going to lengths to ignore the parts of that law it does not like. The serious reservations that Bakke, Grutter, and Fisher had about racial preferences go unrecognized,” Roberts began. “The unambiguous requirements of the Equal Protection Clause — ‘the most rigid,’ ‘searching’ scrutiny it entails — go without note.”

 

“And the repeated demands that race-based admissions programs must end go overlooked — contorted, worse still, into a demand that such programs never stop,” Roberts continued.

 

The Chief Justice went on to attack the liberal justices’ apparent attempt to reserve for the Court the power to choose which race[s] deserve such beneficial treatment, saying it was so egregious that it mirrored decisions rendered before the “Second Founding” — when the post-Civil-War-era 14th Amendment and the included Equal Protection Clause put an end to the Court’s freedom to do so.

 

“That is a remarkable view of the judicial role—remarkably wrong,” Roberts said. “Lost in the false pretense of judicial humility that the dissent espouses is a claim to power so radical, so destructive, that it required a Second Founding to undo. ‘Justice Harlan knew better,’ one of the dissents decrees. … Indeed he did: ‘[I]n view of the Constitution, in the eye of the law, there is in this country no superior, dominant, ruling class of citizens. There is no caste here. Our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.’ Plessy, 163 U. S., at 559 (Harlan, J., dissenting).”

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/chief-justice-roberts-accuses-liberal-justices-of-power-grab-in-affirmative-action-opinion

 

 

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[Uncle Joe]

42 minutes ago, Ann said:

That one was a no-brainer.  The power of the purse lays with the House. How those three thought otherwise, is a real question.

6-3 decision

Those 3 are not constitutionalists.
They rule with the power of feelz.

[Ann]

 

[IDBillzFan]

I'm starting to think the right-leaning justices have simply had enough shit from the far-left diversity appointments.