Jabba The Hutt Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 9 hours ago, B-Man said: Last one by me. 34. Jack Campbell LB Iowa 59. Cody Mauch OT North Dakota State 66. Tuli Tuipulotu EDGE USC 91. Matthew Bergeron OT Syracuse 130. Jaquelin Roy DT LSU 137. Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion Great draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 This is a very long article from the Athletic about the S2 Cognition test. Under each part, there is a pretty detailed explanation what this all means. Inside the S2 Cognition test that’s transforming how NFL teams evaluate draft prospects </snip> Ally and Wylie are cognitive neuroscientists who were collegiate athletes and decided in 2014 to blend their passions. They generated a testing system — using tests with decades of scientific backing — to formulate the S2 method, and they began logging data for NFL Draft prospects (and players in other sports) in 2016. On a broad scope, the S2 test measures how quickly the brain can process information in real time. S2 Cognition has grown each year. Fifteen NFL teams currently employ their services (the Bears, Bills, Broncos, Cardinals, Chiefs, Colts, Commanders, Cowboys, Falcons, Jets, Panthers, Rams, Saints, Steelers and Titans) — testifying to the growing belief around the NFL in their test’s capabilities. Before the start of the all-star game and bowl circuit, those teams prioritize a list of prospects whom they’d like to analyze, and S2 gets to work. S2 tested roughly 850 players this offseason from in-person visits to all-star games, pro days and any other means to get it done. </snip> “Understanding the playbook and executing the playbook in real time are vastly different things,” Wylie said. “Every coach knows that. Every player knows that. From a cognitive standpoint, what they’re doing on the field is very different. “By definition, we’re pushing them (in the S2 test) to the point of failure, to the brink of human performance.” </snip> The S2 Cognition test is broken into eight parts, with each focusing on a particular set of skills thanks to the scientific research behind it. Part One: Search efficiency Part Two: Distraction control Part Three: Perception speed Part Four: Spatial memory Part Five: Impulse control Part Six: Tracking capacity Part Seven: Instinctive learning Part Eight: Decision complexity The necessary context behind the S2 test Players can study and prepare for the Wonderlic because it’s a standardized test. Ally and Wylie are confident that’s not the case with the S2 Cognition test because it’s more of an evaluation into the way a person thinks and processes information in real time. They said there’s typically no significant changes in an athlete’s score if they’ve taken the test multiple times. Of course, there are important factors of preparation, such as being well-rested at the time of the assessment. If they aren’t, that context is important, too. Ally and Wylie also are adamantly against leaking an athlete’s scores. Because they are under contract with 15 NFL teams, those teams legally own the access to the prospects’ results. Why give away something for free — and without context — when their clients are paying for exclusive access? The context is also paramount. Ally and Wylie have spent hours, if not days, with teams to discuss players’ S2 performances. The evaluation isn’t as much about the number as it is the reasoning behind it. </snip> The S2 Cognition test, in their own words, is meant to serve as one piece of the puzzle. At some point down the line, Ally and Wylie believe they’ll have enough data to predict a player’s success rate in the NFL, as they’ve already uncovered in professional baseball. They’ve heard a few NFL general managers say they’ll consistently match up the S2 results with the player’s performance on film. Teams naturally want to understand how to apply these testing results in an appropriate way. Still, it’s complicated — because the brain is complicated. And the S2 Cognition test is beginning to help teams learn how these players are wired to react on the field. “These (tests) are engineered and designed to capture those brain systems that they use in those split-second, rapid timeframes,” Wylie said. “We’re not messing around here. We’re pushing them to the brink of what humans can do and process.” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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devnull Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 For those without a cable/streaming subscription that want to watch the 2023 draft: Your local ABC station will broadcast with an ESPN backup squad NFL Network has free feeds available on the Tubi app and Pluto app, or their respective websites 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ann said: Eye doughnut chair. (The H is silent.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Putting it here, to avoid polluting other threads. Again, there's Deadspin, and there's Carron J. Phillips Deadspin. But this time, there's also hosting Deadspin on their own Carron J. Phillips Deadspin petard. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ann Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Oh boy. This is very concerning. (At least they didn't make the A+ grade) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Foxx Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 Big shoutout to @Ann who was a rock star for the draft. 2 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ann said: ... For those of us that aren't draftniks, can somebody translate that into English? Wtf is an A+++ interview? And who is ranking that? Astro? Somebody else? TIA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, Taro T said: For those of us that aren't draftniks, can somebody translate that into English? Wtf is an A+++ interview? And who is ranking that? Astro? Somebody else? TIA. A+++ is better than A++ which is better than A+. You're welcome. 🙂 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, Taro T said: For those of us that aren't draftniks, can somebody translate that into English? Wtf is an A+++ interview? And who is ranking that? Astro? Somebody else? TIA. It's kinda like when they went to X-tra large, large and medium. Small was removed because, no one wants a small anything. Nevermind that in actuality medium was the new small. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devnull Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Ann said: A+++ is better than A++ which is better than A+. You're welcome. 🙂 What about A++Max commercial free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Ann said: A+++ is better than A++ which is better than A+. You're welcome. 🙂 So, removal of a plus is a minus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Taro T said: For those of us that aren't draftniks, can somebody translate that into English? Wtf is an A+++ interview? And who is ranking that? Astro? Somebody else? TIA. Just reached out to him on FB messenger for an explanation. Stay tuned. 9 hours ago, Ann said: A+++ is better than A++ which is better than A+. You're welcome. 🙂 This is absolutely brilliant!! More so than any comeback I have seen from @Crap Throwing ClavinSorry man! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Fansince88 said: Just reached out to him on FB messenger for an explanation. Stay tuned. This is absolutely brilliant!! More so than any comeback I have seen from @Crap Throwing ClavinSorry man! No, no, no...I already called you an idiot this week. You have to wait. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 18 hours ago, Taro T said: For those of us that aren't draftniks, can somebody translate that into English? Wtf is an A+++ interview? And who is ranking that? Astro? Somebody else? TIA. 17 hours ago, Ann said: A+++ is better than A++ which is better than A+. You're welcome. 🙂 Here is the reply from Dean. "So I watch hundreds of YouTube interviews. I listen for dozens of keys to the player’s personality (crediting others, for example) and award a letter grade." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Fansince88 said: Here is the reply from Dean. "So I watch hundreds of YouTube interviews. I listen for dozens of keys to the player’s personality (crediting others, for example) and award a letter grade." Seems like a lot of work for something you can just randomly pick out of a hat and call it the "OBF DAB POMA" or some shit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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