Conspiracy "theories"

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

31 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/masters-deceit-governments-propaganda-fear-mind-control-brain-warfare

 

“It is the function of mass agitation to exploit all the grievances, hopes, aspirations, prejudices, fears, and ideals of all the special groups that make up our society, social, religious, economic, racial, political. Stir them up. Set one against the other. Divide and conquer. That’s the way to soften up a democracy.”

- J. Edgar Hoover, Masters of Deceit

The U.S. government has become a master of deceit.

It’s all documented, too.

 

This is a government that lies, cheats, steals, spies, kills, maims, enslaves, breaks the laws, overreaches its authority, and abuses its power at almost every turn; treats its citizens like faceless statistics and economic units to be bought, sold, bartered, traded, and tracked; and wages wars for profit, jails its own people for profit, and has no qualms about spreading its reign of terror abroad.

 

Worse, this is a government that has become almost indistinguishable from the evil it claims to be fighting, whether that evil takes the form of terrorism, torture, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, murder, violence, theft, pornography, scientific experimentations or some other diabolical means of inflicting pain, suffering and servitude on humanity.

 

With every passing day, it becomes painfully clear that this is not a government that can be trusted with your life, your loved ones, your livelihood or your freedoms.

 

 

This Machiavellian scheme has so ensnared the nation that few Americans even realize they are being brainwashed—manipulated—into adopting an “us” against “them” mindset. All the while, those in power—bought and paid for by lobbyists and corporations—move their costly agendas forward.

 

This unseen mechanism of society that manipulates us through fear into compliance is what American theorist Edward L. Bernays referred to as “an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”

It was almost 100 years ago when Bernays wrote his seminal work Propaganda:

“We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of... In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”

 

 

Complete bullshit.  How can you talk about government mind control programs without talking about HAARP, 5G, and fluoridated water?  WAKE UP FLUORIDATED SHEEPLE!!!!

[Spartacus]

10 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Complete bullshit.  How can you talk about government mind control programs without talking about HAARP, 5G, and fluoridated water?  WAKE UP FLUORIDATED SHEEPLE!!!!

you forgot the covid vax program

[Spartacus]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-blew-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1-2-says-former-polish-defense-minister

 

A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter. Sikorski was Minister of National Defense from 2005 - 2007 and served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, previously. He is currently an elected member of the European parliament.

 

Nord Stream 1 and 2 lie on the bed of the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was finished last year but Germany never opened it because Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24.

 

 

But it’s not out of the realm of the possible that the U.S. is indeed behind the attack. President Joe Biden promised on February 7 to prevent Nord Stream 2 from becoming operational if Russia invaded Ukraine. "If Russia invades,” said Biden, “then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

 

Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

 

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

4 hours ago, Spartacus said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-blew-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1-2-says-former-polish-defense-minister

 

A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter. Sikorski was Minister of National Defense from 2005 - 2007 and served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, previously. He is currently an elected member of the European parliament.

 

Nord Stream 1 and 2 lie on the bed of the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was finished last year but Germany never opened it because Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24.

 

 

But it’s not out of the realm of the possible that the U.S. is indeed behind the attack. President Joe Biden promised on February 7 to prevent Nord Stream 2 from becoming operational if Russia invaded Ukraine. "If Russia invades,” said Biden, “then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

 

Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

 

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."

 

Kearsarge has been on exercises in the English Channel for the past week, not the Baltic. 

[Cinga]

11 hours ago, Spartacus said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-blew-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1-2-says-former-polish-defense-minister

 

A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter. Sikorski was Minister of National Defense from 2005 - 2007 and served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, previously. He is currently an elected member of the European parliament.

 

Nord Stream 1 and 2 lie on the bed of the Baltic Sea. Nord Stream 2 was finished last year but Germany never opened it because Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24.

 

 

But it’s not out of the realm of the possible that the U.S. is indeed behind the attack. President Joe Biden promised on February 7 to prevent Nord Stream 2 from becoming operational if Russia invaded Ukraine. "If Russia invades,” said Biden, “then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

 

Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

 

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."

 

7 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Kearsarge has been on exercises in the English Channel for the past week, not the Baltic. 

 

If you look at all sides of this, Germany and Russia both have too much to lose because if this, Russia monetary, Germany will have people freeze to death.

However the US and their green movement have a motive and have Biden own admitted a desire. Who else to blame? Ukraine perhaps, but what would be the motive?

[Spartacus]

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

 

 

If you look at all sides of this, Germany and Russia both have too much to lose because if this, Russia monetary, Germany will have people freeze to death.

However the US and their green movement have a motive and have Biden own admitted a desire. Who else to blame? Ukraine perhaps, but what would be the motive?

you can start with the assumption that the global elites pulling the strings around the globe are to blame.

The US has the tools to make it happen, until Biden totally trashes the armed forces.

[Nouseforaname]

2 hours ago, Cinga said:

 

 

If you look at all sides of this, Germany and Russia both have too much to lose because if this, Russia monetary, Germany will have people freeze to death.

However the US and their green movement have a motive and have Biden own admitted a desire. Who else to blame? Ukraine perhaps, but what would be the motive?

Germany has 91% gas reserves. Russia already wasn’t using the pipeline.  

[devnull]

3 hours ago, Cinga said:

 

 

If you look at all sides of this, Germany and Russia both have too much to lose because if this, Russia monetary, Germany will have people freeze to death.

However the US and their green movement have a motive and have Biden own admitted a desire. Who else to blame? Ukraine perhaps, but what would be the motive?

Sweden and Finland

 

Price of joining NATO

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

3 hours ago, Cinga said:

 

 

If you look at all sides of this, Germany and Russia both have too much to lose because if this, Russia monetary, Germany will have people freeze to death.

However the US and their green movement have a motive and have Biden own admitted a desire. Who else to blame? Ukraine perhaps, but what would be the motive?

 

Russia's not losing any money, because they've already suspended exports to Europe.  And, you'll note, their economy isn't suffering for it.  

[Cinga]

32 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said:

Germany has 91% gas reserves. Russia already wasn’t using the pipeline.  

 

6 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Russia's not losing any money, because they've already suspended exports to Europe.  And, you'll note, their economy isn't suffering for it.  

 

Funny, wonder why gas is bubbling up to the surface and greenies are more concerned about that then they are of people freezing this winter... 

 

[Nouseforaname]

5 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

 

Funny, wonder why gas is bubbling up to the surface and greenies are more concerned about that then they are of people freezing this winter... 

 

The pipeline was not in use and Germany was already in the process of getting alternatives.  This wouldn’t change that outcome.

[Cinga]

17 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said:

The pipeline was not in use and Germany was already in the process of getting alternatives.  This wouldn’t change that outcome.

 

Okay then....

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/world/europe/cia-nord-stream-pipelines-attack.html

 

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Both pipelines suffered a sudden loss of pressure and released gas into the sea, European officials reported, and the chances that both suffered accidents nearly simultaneously seem low.

 

I'm not sure how something that is not being used can have a sudden loss of pressure and release gas into the sea. This is a conspiracy thread so I suppose there is an explanation

[Nouseforaname]

7 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Okay then....

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/world/europe/cia-nord-stream-pipelines-attack.html

 

 

I'm not sure how something that is not being used can have a sudden loss of pressure and release gas into the sea. This is a conspiracy thread so I suppose there is an explanation

Nord stream 1 was shutdown because of repairs and nord stream 2 was stopped because of the war.

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

6 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Okay then....

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/world/europe/cia-nord-stream-pipelines-attack.html

 

 

I'm not sure how something that is not being used can have a sudden loss of pressure and release gas into the sea. This is a conspiracy thread so I suppose there is an explanation

 

Natural gas pipelines transport liquid natural gas.  

 

When not in use, they're not empty.  They're still full of natural gas, but in gaseous form, and not under pressure.  Eventually, this bubbling will stop, when the pipeline (or whatever section of pipeline they've isolated) fills with water.

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Natural gas pipelines transport liquid natural gas.  

 

When not in use, they're not empty.  They're still full of natural gas, but in gaseous form, and not under pressure.  Eventually, this bubbling will stop, when the pipeline (or whatever section of pipeline they've isolated) fills with water.

 

I had to look it up cause I didn't think that was right given that even oil has heating and pumping stations along the way you that can't have at the bottom of the ocean and it's not. You can't transport LNG through a pipeline...

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/can-lng-be-transported-by-pipeline/

Part of the process to liquify is to chill it to -260 degrees and that cannot be maintained through a pipeline and it would be too volatile. However volume is decreased dramatically that way allowing transport in tanks, then it is re-liquefied  at it's destination to be piped wherever it is going

[Nouseforaname]

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

 

I had to look it up cause I didn't think that was right given that even oil has heating and pumping stations along the way you that can't have at the bottom of the ocean and it's not. You can't transport LNG through a pipeline...

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/can-lng-be-transported-by-pipeline/

Part of the process to liquify is to chill it to -260 degrees and that cannot be maintained through a pipeline and it would be too volatile. However volume is decreased dramatically that way allowing transport in tanks, then it is re-liquefied  at it's destination to be piped wherever it is going

 

 

[Cinga]

35 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said:

 

 

 

And it's still leaking the gas that wasn't passing through it somehow

 

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2022/09/27/dramatic-images-erupting-sea-emerge-europe-russia-nord-stream-pipeline-leaks/

 

 

 

[Koko]

2 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

And it's still leaking the gas that wasn't passing through it somehow

 

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2022/09/27/dramatic-images-erupting-sea-emerge-europe-russia-nord-stream-pipeline-leaks/

 

 

 

 

Well, even at low PSI with no active flow, there's still a lot of natural gas left in the pipe over that big of a distance.

[Deranged Rhino]

4 hours ago, Nouseforaname said:

The pipeline was not in use and Germany was already in the process of getting alternatives.  This wouldn’t change that outcome.

 

Which only makes it less likely Russia was behind it. If it's like you said, the economic damage was already being wrought due to Russians stopping the flow. Blowing it up wouldn't change that outcome, thus that removes the biggest motivation Russia would have for blowing up their own $20 billion project.

 

Right? 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Which only makes it less likely Russia was behind it. If it's like you said, the economic damage was already being wrought due to Russians stopping the flow. Blowing it up wouldn't change that outcome, thus that removes the biggest motivation Russia would have for blowing up their own $20 billion project.

 

Right? 

 

Wrong.

 

Why not irrevocably cut trade with NATO - who you're effectively at war at - when it doesn't discomfit you in the slightest?