Shady Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 https://www.nfl.com/news/the-first-read-one-reason-for-hope-for-nine-bubble-teams-still-in-nfl-playoff-hu Reason for Hope: They’re rolling. The Bills have become the scariest team in the AFC -- and you can make a case that they’re probably top three in the NFL right now. That’s how well they’re playing these days. They just crushed Dallas with quarterback Josh Allen throwing for all of 94 yards. They went into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs two Sundays ago and they were within a missed throw from Allen to wide receiver Gabe Davis of taking out Philadelphia in overtime one game prior. (Aided by the refs) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Obviously winning out is preferred, but the wildcard is pretty treacherous if you assume they finish 10-7. Any loss for Denver is key. Cleveland beating Houston next week is key. Cincy losing 2 of 3 against Pitts/KC/Cleveland is key. Titans blowing that game yesterday hurts. Tennessee and Chicago both blowing what should've been unlikely losses both hurt. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Taro T said: Tennessee and Chicago both blowing what should've been unlikely losses both hurt. And Minnesota….I almost forgot that disaster. Bills got zero help this weekend. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 10:07 PM, KD in CA said: Bills got zero help this weekend. Let's hope for better this week. For Cut & paste NO @ LAR CIN @ PIT BUF @ LAC WSH @ NYJ SEA @ TN CLE @ HOU JAX @ TB DET @ MIN GB @ CAR IND @ ATL AZ @ CHI NE @ DEN DAL @ MIA LV @ KC NYG @ PHI BAL @ SF NO @ LAR No opinion CIN @ PIT Steelers BUF @ LAC BILLS WSH @ NYJ Worse draft position SEA @ TN Payback for Houston loss CLE @ HOU Get Wildcard spot first JAX @ TB C'mon Baker DET @ MIN No opinion GB @ CAR " " IND @ ATL Fly Falcons Fly AZ @ CHI No opinion NE @ DEN Go Pats LV@ KC Fairy tales can come true NYG @ PHI Giants, just because BAL @ SF Super Bowl ? 49'ers DAL @ MIA Go Boys! (thanks Devnull) . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 This works for me Image: 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Foxx said: This works for me Image: The heck with that. Let KC lose to Vegas or the Bolts and then the Bills have the 2 seed and rehost the Donkeys. Ain't gonna be no 12 men on the field in that one. Guar-an-damn-tee it. Would also force KC to travel to Buffalo should they both make it to either the 2nd or 3rd round (depending upon whether the Crows choke in their opener or not). 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Foxx said: This works for me Image: The second best part about that would be that the Fish are completely out. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, snafu said: The second best part about that would be that the Fish are completely out. I think the way you get that result is that the phishies lose out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devnull Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) NO @ LAR: meh CIN @ PIT: Obviously BUF @ LAC: Obviously WSH @ NYJ: Helps strength of schedule SEA @ TN: Titans loss lowers Jax, Houston, and Indy's strength of schedule CLE @ HOU: A loss by either helps however a win by either hurts. But easier to catch the Texans JAX @ TB: Jax holds tiebreakers over us DET @ MIN: meh GB @ CAR: meh IND @ ATL: Obviously AZ @ CHI: meh NE @ DEN: Nope, can't do it LV @ KC: Obviously NYG @ PHI: Strength of schedule BAL @ SF: Brock Purdy And @B-Man left a game off the list... DAL @ MIA Edited December 21, 2023 by devnull 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ComradeKayAdams Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I’ve been experimenting with the New York Times NFL Playoff Simulator today. It shows the following playoff chances for the Bills: 11-6: 99+% 10-7 with loss to Chargers: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Patriots: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Dolphins: ~60% 9-8 with win against Chargers: ~1% 9-8 with win against Patriots: ~1% 9-8 with win against Dolphins: ~1% 8-9: 0% The singular scenario for the Bills to finish 11-6 and still miss the playoffs is where the Dolphins win their week 16 and week 17 games, the Bengals win out, the Browns win their week 16 and week 17 games (but lose to the Bengals in week 18), the Jaguars win out, and the Colts win out. So that’s a total of 13 games that would all have to not fall our way… Let’s focus on the 10-7 playoff path with a week 18 loss to the Dolphins. This path has been made difficult by the fact that the Bills pretty much lose all tiebreaker scenarios. When you concede a playoff spot to the Chiefs, the Bills need at least 4** of the following 7 scenarios to break their way (I capitalized the games where the 7 teams of interest play each other): 1. Steelers lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (BENGALS, at Seahawks, at Ravens). 2. Broncos lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (Patriots, Chargers, at Raiders). 3. Bengals lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at STEELERS, at Chiefs, BROWNS). 4. Texans lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (BROWNS, Titans, at COLTS). 5. Colts lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Falcons, Raiders, TEXANS). 6. Jaguars lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Buccaneers, Panthers, at Titans). 7. Browns lose all 3 remaining games (at TEXANS, Jets, at BENGALS). I ranked these 7 scenarios from what I think are most likely to least likely. Note that we do see scenarios where the Bills can clinch the playoffs by the end of week 17. There’s a reasonable chance that our week 18 game against the Dolphins gets flexed to Sunday night, so we may definitively know by kickoff whether or not the Bills are playing a single-elimination game. ** - If exactly 4 break our way, then at least 1 of the 3 not breaking our way must be an AFC South team. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I’ve been experimenting with the New York Times NFL Playoff Simulator today. It shows the following playoff chances for the Bills: 11-6: 99+% 10-7 with loss to Chargers: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Patriots: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Dolphins: ~60% 9-8 with win against Chargers: ~1% 9-8 with win against Patriots: ~1% 9-8 with win against Dolphins: ~1% 8-9: 0% The singular scenario for the Bills to finish 11-6 and still miss the playoffs is where the Dolphins win their week 16 and week 17 games, the Bengals win out, the Browns win their week 16 and week 17 games (but lose to the Bengals in week 18), the Jaguars win out, and the Colts win out. So that’s a total of 13 games that would all have to not fall our way… Let’s focus on the 10-7 playoff path with a week 18 loss to the Dolphins. This path has been made difficult by the fact that the Bills pretty much lose all tiebreaker scenarios. When you concede a playoff spot to the Chiefs, the Bills need at least 4** of the following 7 scenarios to break their way (I capitalized the games where the 7 teams of interest play each other): 1. Steelers lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (BENGALS, at Seahawks, at Ravens). 2. Broncos lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (Patriots, Chargers, at Raiders). 3. Bengals lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at STEELERS, at Chiefs, BROWNS). 4. Texans lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (BROWNS, Titans, at COLTS). 5. Colts lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Falcons, Raiders, TEXANS). 6. Jaguars lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Buccaneers, Panthers, at Titans). 7. Browns lose all 3 remaining games (at TEXANS, Jets, at BENGALS). I ranked these 7 scenarios from what I think are most likely to least likely. Note that we do see scenarios where the Bills can clinch the playoffs by the end of week 17. There’s a reasonable chance that our week 18 game against the Dolphins gets flexed to Sunday night, so we may definitively know by kickoff whether or not the Bills are playing a single-elimination game. ** - If exactly 4 break our way, then at least 1 of the 3 not breaking our way must be an AFC South team. My attitude.....Win out and see what happens. Fins loose one this or next week and GO GET THE AFCE TITLE! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I’ve been experimenting with the New York Times NFL Playoff Simulator today. It shows the following playoff chances for the Bills: 11-6: 99+% 10-7 with loss to Chargers: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Patriots: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Dolphins: ~60% 9-8 with win against Chargers: ~1% 9-8 with win against Patriots: ~1% 9-8 with win against Dolphins: ~1% 8-9: 0% The singular scenario for the Bills to finish 11-6 and still miss the playoffs is where the Dolphins win their week 16 and week 17 games, the Bengals win out, the Browns win their week 16 and week 17 games (but lose to the Bengals in week 18), the Jaguars win out, and the Colts win out. So that’s a total of 13 games that would all have to not fall our way… Let’s focus on the 10-7 playoff path with a week 18 loss to the Dolphins. This path has been made difficult by the fact that the Bills pretty much lose all tiebreaker scenarios. When you concede a playoff spot to the Chiefs, the Bills need at least 4** of the following 7 scenarios to break their way (I capitalized the games where the 7 teams of interest play each other): 1. Steelers lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (BENGALS, at Seahawks, at Ravens). 2. Broncos lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (Patriots, Chargers, at Raiders). 3. Bengals lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at STEELERS, at Chiefs, BROWNS). 4. Texans lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (BROWNS, Titans, at COLTS). 5. Colts lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Falcons, Raiders, TEXANS). 6. Jaguars lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Buccaneers, Panthers, at Titans). 7. Browns lose all 3 remaining games (at TEXANS, Jets, at BENGALS). I ranked these 7 scenarios from what I think are most likely to least likely. Note that we do see scenarios where the Bills can clinch the playoffs by the end of week 17. There’s a reasonable chance that our week 18 game against the Dolphins gets flexed to Sunday night, so we may definitively know by kickoff whether or not the Bills are playing a single-elimination game. ** - If exactly 4 break our way, then at least 1 of the 3 not breaking our way must be an AFC South team. Simplest and best outcome is Bills win out, Fishies lose this week &/or next week, Chefs lose at least 1 game, and Jags & winner of the Indy/Houston game both lose at least 1, so the Bills would have the 2 seed regardless of what any of the other teams do. Bills CAN get to the same record as the Crows, but must have a worse record with common opponents because have been told the Bills can't get the #1 seed overall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ann said: https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/1738899479992864771 I can easily see 4 of the 6. Not too sure about the *Patriots or Raiders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 21 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I’ve been experimenting with the New York Times NFL Playoff Simulator today. It shows the following playoff chances for the Bills: 11-6: 99+% 10-7 with loss to Chargers: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Patriots: ~70% 10-7 with loss to Dolphins: ~60% 9-8 with win against Chargers: ~1% 9-8 with win against Patriots: ~1% 9-8 with win against Dolphins: ~1% 8-9: 0% The singular scenario for the Bills to finish 11-6 and still miss the playoffs is where the Dolphins win their week 16 and week 17 games, the Bengals win out, the Browns win their week 16 and week 17 games (but lose to the Bengals in week 18), the Jaguars win out, and the Colts win out. So that’s a total of 13 games that would all have to not fall our way… Let’s focus on the 10-7 playoff path with a week 18 loss to the Dolphins. This path has been made difficult by the fact that the Bills pretty much lose all tiebreaker scenarios. When you concede a playoff spot to the Chiefs, the Bills need at least 4** of the following 7 scenarios to break their way (I capitalized the games where the 7 teams of interest play each other): 1. Steelers lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (BENGALS, at Seahawks, at Ravens). 2. Broncos lose at least 1 of their remaining 3 games (Patriots, Chargers, at Raiders). 3. Bengals lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at STEELERS, at Chiefs, BROWNS). 4. Texans lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (BROWNS, Titans, at COLTS). 5. Colts lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Falcons, Raiders, TEXANS). 6. Jaguars lose at least 2 of their remaining 3 games (at Buccaneers, Panthers, at Titans). 7. Browns lose all 3 remaining games (at TEXANS, Jets, at BENGALS). I ranked these 7 scenarios from what I think are most likely to least likely. Note that we do see scenarios where the Bills can clinch the playoffs by the end of week 17. There’s a reasonable chance that our week 18 game against the Dolphins gets flexed to Sunday night, so we may definitively know by kickoff whether or not the Bills are playing a single-elimination game. ** - If exactly 4 break our way, then at least 1 of the 3 not breaking our way must be an AFC South team. Feels like only 1, 3, 4 are “likely”. Maybe 2 if Denver gets bit by a division foe. Each game feels like single elimination. Bills just gotta win them all. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Ann said: https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/1738899479992864771 I'll root for the sweet release of death before I root for the Patriots. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanker Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 21 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said: I'll root for the sweet release of death before I root for the Patriots. Me too. But I fell asleep early watching Reacher and woke up this Christmas morning to the sweet news that the Denver creamsicles lost. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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