BILLS 2023/24 Season Official Thread

[Spartacus]

13 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

I can see keeping Matakevich because of the defense but keeping Neal over Austin or Ingram isn't going to sit well with me.

Matakevich has shown no ability to play defense - why keep him over Spector who has shown flashes?

[Alaska Darin]

19 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

Matakevich has shown no ability to play defense - why keep him over Spector who has shown flashes?

Flashes where?  He's not seen the field in a meaningful situation in his career (only defensive snaps were late in the Steeler blowout).  His best hope for a long NFL career is to become the next Matakevich.

[SquirminThurman]

14 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

Matakevich has shown no ability to play defense - why keep him over Spector who has shown flashes?

 Agree on Matalevich as a cut. I had eyeballed him as a salary cut last offseason. He stuck for ST, and ST rules have changed again.

 

But Spector flashing. Not trying to call you out, but I don't recall that. I had to go to profootball reference to make sure I wasn't misremembering last season. According to PFR, which most folks agree is a very solid database: Snap Count

Defense: 12

Special Teams: 86

 

He had 6 tackles (all solo). No pass rushes, yielded 4 completions on 5 targets against and was credited with one missed tackle. I don't see a breakdown of tackles on ST vs defense. If he had 6 solo tackles on 12 snaps, that would be very good, but I think most of those tackles were on ST.

 

Not sure what flashes he showed. He's a second year player so a bit quick to pass judgement on him, but no he didn't flash much at all that I recall. Probable PS player IMO (only 6 games played/ 0 starts).

 

Is there a play or two (only had 12 snap counts on defense) you can share with us to jog our collective memory?

[Spartacus]

5 minutes ago, SquirminThurman said:

 Agree on Matalevich as a cut. I had eyeballed him as a salary cut last offseason. He stuck for ST, and ST rules have changed again.

 

But Spector flashing. Not trying to call you out, but I don't recall that. I had to go to profootball reference to make sure I wasn't misremembering last season. According to PFR, which most folks agree is a very solid database: Snap Count

Defense: 12

Special Teams: 86

 

He had 6 tackles (all solo). No pass rushes, yielded 4 completions on 5 targets against and was credited with one missed tackle. I don't see a breakdown of tackles on ST vs defense. If he had 6 solo tackles on 12 snaps, that would be very good, but I think most of those tackles were on ST.

 

Not sure what flashes he showed. He's a second year player so a bit quick to pass judgement on him, but no he didn't flash much at all that I recall. Probable PS player IMO (only 6 games played/ 0 starts).

 

Is there a play or two (only had 12 snap counts on defense) you can share with us to jog our collective memory?

pre- season

which is still more than Matekevich brings to the table

[SquirminThurman]

3 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

pre- season

which is still more than Matekevich brings to the table

Ok Pre-season. Lots of pre-season heroes that don't pan out, or have to go 2nd or 3rd teams to get a break.

 

CB Nick McCloud reminds me of that. I was one of the Nick McCloud fan boys. He got meaningful snaps on defense with the Giants last season and did ok for them.

 

I personally don't frame this as Matakevich vs Spector. I think both guys are going to have a slog to make it to the active roster. Unfortunately the Matakevich extension makes him a tough cut now, Spector to PS seems probable to me if he has another strong camp.

[Ann]

 

[Ann]

 

[TakeYouToTasker 2.0]

On 6/18/2023 at 10:08 AM, Alaska Darin said:

Flashes where?  He's not seen the field in a meaningful situation in his career (only defensive snaps were late in the Steeler blowout).  His best hope for a long NFL career is to become the next Matakevich.

 

On 6/18/2023 at 10:26 AM, SquirminThurman said:

 Agree on Matalevich as a cut. I had eyeballed him as a salary cut last offseason. He stuck for ST, and ST rules have changed again.

 

But Spector flashing. Not trying to call you out, but I don't recall that. I had to go to profootball reference to make sure I wasn't misremembering last season. According to PFR, which most folks agree is a very solid database: Snap Count

Defense: 12

Special Teams: 86

 

He had 6 tackles (all solo). No pass rushes, yielded 4 completions on 5 targets against and was credited with one missed tackle. I don't see a breakdown of tackles on ST vs defense. If he had 6 solo tackles on 12 snaps, that would be very good, but I think most of those tackles were on ST.

 

Not sure what flashes he showed. He's a second year player so a bit quick to pass judgement on him, but no he didn't flash much at all that I recall. Probable PS player IMO (only 6 games played/ 0 starts).

 

Is there a play or two (only had 12 snap counts on defense) you can share with us to jog our collective memory?

 

On 6/18/2023 at 10:32 AM, Spartacus said:

pre- season

which is still more than Matekevich brings to the table

They’ve named Matakevich a captain for two years running, so they *clearly* think highly of him.

 

He may not make the team, but he’s by no means an “easy” cut.

[Ann]

 

[Nanker]

I think there will some OLmen and DLinemen traded as well as a CB and or LB before week 1 of the season. 

[Ninety-4]

2 hours ago, Ann said:

 

 

It looks to me like the Bills could field a better team in 2023 compared to last year's vaunted at the beginning of the season team.  

[Seasons1992]

15 minutes ago, Ninety-4 said:

 

It looks to me like the Bills could field a better team in 2023 compared to last year's vaunted at the beginning of the season team.  

 

The fact that this slot isn't an empty box is the best thing ever.

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 hours ago, Ninety-4 said:

 

It looks to me like the Bills could field a better team in 2023 compared to last year's vaunted at the beginning of the season team.  

 

Haven't we said that every year since about 2022?

 

I mean, it's been true the past several years, which is nice.  But still...

[Ann]

 

[Alaska Darin]

 

 

[Ann]

 

[Alaska Darin]

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

17 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

 

Dawson Knox pulling a Joe Biden on Eva with Josh at the end... Don't blame ya Dawson, don't blame you one bit since Kincaid will be getting in on that soon

[IDBillzFan]

49 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

 

 

They're at Nazareth, which is where I went to college. Would have shit myself if I woke up on campus to find Metzelaars holding a TE camp.

[Deranged Rhino]

23 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

They're at Nazareth, which is where I went to college. Would have shit myself if I woke up on campus to find Metzelaars holding a TE camp.

 

I always forget you're a Nazareth grad.