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Deranged Rhino Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 hours ago, Fansince88 said: Do we like this. Never paid much attention to him Love it. He was wasted in Washington. Can't wait to see him light it up with 17. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 14 hours ago, Fansince88 said: Would like to see his drops to see them. Yes. I see from that highlight reel that he gets tackled a lot. Edited March 15 by Nanker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 hours ago, Fansince88 said: Do we like this. Never paid much attention to him Yes as a WR Yes as a Slot Receiver Yes for WR screens Yes as a gadget/pistol guy Yes even occasionally as a runner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed Believer Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Love it. He was wasted in Washington. Can't wait to see him light it up with 17. Samuel will make us forget what’s his name…..errrrrrr, I think it was David or something like that. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Blessed Believer said: Samuel will make us forget what’s his name…..errrrrrr, I think it was David or something like that. 😎 Gabub David I think. Edited March 15 by Fansince88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 Most Free Agents Relinquished in 2024 thus far... BUF 11 SEA 9 SF 8 BAL 7 CLE 7 MIA 7 HOU 6 WSH 6 CAR 5 JAX 5 LAC 5 LV 6 MIN 5 NE 5 PHI 5 TEN 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirminThurman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) Curtis Samuel, good mid-tier pickup. Better than Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs. Solid WR2, would be amazing in the slot. Was a RB in college. Can play slot and has been a KR, so he will be in on the 'hands team', especially with Hyde gone. Poor Man's Deebo Samuel. 317/ 485 (65% Catch %) 3383 yards/ 22 TDs. But adds: 121 rushing attempts/ 715 yards/ 7 TD 5.9 YPC Could be a real red zone pain in the ass for other teams with JA and Cook in the backfield. Had 4.31 speed at the Combine, but averages less than 10.7 YPC in the NFL (Gabe Davis averaged 16.7) PS - People wanted to run Cole Beasley out of town when he dipped below 10 YPC as a slot WR. Has started 58 of 91 games (52%). Some was IR, some was 'COVID IR'. Think Isaiah McKenzie with more WR#2 and ST chops. Guesstimates: 55 REC/ 600 yards/ 5 TD receiving 20 ATT/ 110 Yards/ 2 TD rushing Will get open more than GD, but without the sizzle of 'Big Game GD'. Not the size or blocker GD was either. JMO. Still need a WR in rounds 1-3. PS Renfrow was the guy the Bills should have picked up. Samuel is a solid get though. Edited March 15 by SquirminThurman 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirminThurman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) The best FA signing was Daquan Jones. Makes Oliver Elite. Good signing there. Edited March 15 by SquirminThurman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fansince88 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, Ann said: ... Ohhhhh @Crap Throwing Clavin here is you Day!! Could it happen to Day To Morrow? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoney Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I didn't know Samuel's from Brooklyn. Welcome home! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba The Hutt Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, SquirminThurman said: Curtis Samuel, good mid-tier pickup. Better than Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs. Solid WR2, would be amazing in the slot. Was a RB in college. Can play slot and has been a KR, so he will be in on the 'hands team', especially with Hyde gone. Poor Man's Deebo Samuel. 317/ 485 (65% Catch %) 3383 yards/ 22 TDs. But adds: 121 rushing attempts/ 715 yards/ 7 TD 5.9 YPC Could be a real red zone pain in the ass for other teams with JA and Cook in the backfield. Had 4.31 speed at the Combine, but averages less than 10.7 YPC in the NFL (Gabe Davis averaged 16.7) PS - People wanted to run Cole Beasley out of town when he dipped below 10 YPC as a slot WR. Has started 58 of 91 games (52%). Some was IR, some was 'COVID IR'. Think Isaiah McKenzie with more WR#2 and ST chops. Guesstimates: 55 REC/ 600 yards/ 5 TD receiving 20 ATT/ 110 Yards/ 2 TD rushing Will get open more than GD, but without the sizzle of 'Big Game GD'. Not the size or blocker GD was either. JMO. Still need a WR in rounds 1-3. PS Renfrow was the guy the Bills should have picked up. Samuel is a solid get though. I said the same thing and I love you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ninety-4 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) On 3/15/2024 at 4:03 PM, SquirminThurman said: Curtis Samuel, good mid-tier pickup. Better than Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs. Solid WR2, would be amazing in the slot. Was a RB in college. Can play slot and has been a KR, so he will be in on the 'hands team', especially with Hyde gone. Poor Man's Deebo Samuel. 317/ 485 (65% Catch %) 3383 yards/ 22 TDs. But adds: 121 rushing attempts/ 715 yards/ 7 TD 5.9 YPC Could be a real red zone pain in the ass for other teams with JA and Cook in the backfield. Had 4.31 speed at the Combine, but averages less than 10.7 YPC in the NFL (Gabe Davis averaged 16.7) PS - People wanted to run Cole Beasley out of town when he dipped below 10 YPC as a slot WR. Has started 58 of 91 games (52%). Some was IR, some was 'COVID IR'. Think Isaiah McKenzie with more WR#2 and ST chops. Guesstimates: 55 REC/ 600 yards/ 5 TD receiving 20 ATT/ 110 Yards/ 2 TD rushing Will get open more than GD, but without the sizzle of 'Big Game GD'. Not the size or blocker GD was either. JMO. Still need a WR in rounds 1-3. PS Renfrow was the guy the Bills should have picked up. Samuel is a solid get though. Hoping your guestimates are on the low side given his co$t. Hopefully much more than 3-ish catches per game. He's played with some below average QBs and teams. He should be able to do more as a Bill hopefully. He's got some similarities with Tyreek Hill in size (not tall but some thickness) and very similar speed. Edited March 18 by Ninety-4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 The 9 worst moves from free agency so far via @ConnorNFLDraft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SquirminThurman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/17/2024 at 10:38 PM, Ninety-4 said: Hoping your guestimates are on the low side given his co$t. Hopefully much more than 3-ish catches per game. He's played with some below average QBs and teams. He should be able to do more as a Bill hopefully. He's got some similarities with Tyreek Hill in size (not tall but some thickness) and very similar speed. Just trying to temper expectations. True, other than YR 1 and 2 (Cam Newton) his QB play was pretty bad. I'll clarify my POV. He has been a very good WR2 with a stud WR1 like DJ Moore (underrated in the NFL) and capable QB like Cam Newton in the past. He also has the versatility the Bills want in WR2 or WR3 with running skills. I think I said a 'poor mans Deebo Samuel'. Lil Dirty did that for us for a while, but was very limited as a pure WR. Samuel is a better WR than Lil Dirty. He isn't the WR or runner Samuel is. He is not the blocker Gabe Davis was, which gets discounted. He also is not the big play maker Samuel or Davis are. His 10-11 YPC career avg points to it. The Bills probably have him pegged as WR2, unless the draft brings in a stud WR in rounds 1-2. If they can land a stud WR in the daft, Samuel will probably start at WR2 and end up transitioning to WR3 if the rookie develops well. Samuel would be a nasty nasty WR3 matchup. He is a capable WR2. I expect 100-110m targets. With a 65% career catch % lets say 65 receptions. His career YPC is 10.7. At 10 YPR we see 650 yards receiving. At 11 YPC we see 715 yards receiving. I low balled him a bit. We should see 650-750 yards receiving. 5 TDs receiving feels right. I also stand by the @200 yards rushing and 1-2 TD range. The only FA WR I liked more in the $10-15 million range was KJ Osborn from Minnesota. He is a more steady producer and only in year 4. He is roughly the same size, and does not offer as much versatility as Samuel. Happy with the pick up overall. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirminThurman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 9 hours ago, Ann said: Blackmon would be a really nice get. Yr 5 S improving each season. Good compliment to Rapp, who is a better 'box S' 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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