Buffalo Bills want a new stadium – and for taxpayers to foot the bill

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

27 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

Were you yelling "whey ta goo...Eh".

 

I'll bet he apologized a lot, though.  

 

[Nouseforaname]

26 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

I'll bet he apologized a lot, though.  

 

Je suis désolé.

[Ann]

Hiring subcontractors 

 

 

 

 

[Spartacus]

On 2/24/2023 at 7:24 AM, Ann said:

Hiring subcontractors 

 

 

 

 

translation:  local sub-contractors concerned they can't gouge the team with local premium pricing if the team gives work to a lower bidder, who happens to be from out of state 

 

 

https://buffalonews.com/business/local/bids-advance-for-buffalo-bills-stadium-foundation-but-scrutiny-over-1-4-billion-project-remains/article_7d1806fc-b2de-11ed-8b01-278781b20067.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_TheBuffaloNews

 

But looming over the project, which has not received all its final approvals yet, is recent concern expressed by local union leadership over the potential use of out-of-town contractors and material distributors on some of the stadium work.

 

But Brown is worried about the use of materials and services from outside the state and even country. In an email obtained by The Buffalo News, he pointed specifically to plans for laying precast brick assembled in Canada for the stadium exterior. He's also heard out-of-town contractors will be handling the plumbing and electrical work.

 

“It’s our job to make sure we create opportunities and open the door, and it’s your job to walk through the door,” Deborah Pereira, vice president and program CEO at Gilbane, said at a December meeting for potential contractors for the new stadium.

 

 

 

 

 

[Alaska Darin]

4 hours ago, Spartacus said:

translation:  local sub-contractors concerned they can't gouge the team with local premium pricing if the team gives work to a lower bidder, who happens to be from out of state 

 

 

https://buffalonews.com/business/local/bids-advance-for-buffalo-bills-stadium-foundation-but-scrutiny-over-1-4-billion-project-remains/article_7d1806fc-b2de-11ed-8b01-278781b20067.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_TheBuffaloNews

 

But looming over the project, which has not received all its final approvals yet, is recent concern expressed by local union leadership over the potential use of out-of-town contractors and material distributors on some of the stadium work.

 

But Brown is worried about the use of materials and services from outside the state and even country. In an email obtained by The Buffalo News, he pointed specifically to plans for laying precast brick assembled in Canada for the stadium exterior. He's also heard out-of-town contractors will be handling the plumbing and electrical work.

 

“It’s our job to make sure we create opportunities and open the door, and it’s your job to walk through the door,” Deborah Pereira, vice president and program CEO at Gilbane, said at a December meeting for potential contractors for the new stadium.

 

 

 

 

 

Liberal Buffalo is gonna Liberal Buffalo.  They'll never learn.

[Ann]

Latest renderings are in…

 

 

 

[Spartacus]

https://www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/bills-stadium-issues-dobler-s-classic-response/article_a24e53a0-f349-5af8-adaf-d4e971290d77.html

 

Meanwhile, Buffalo’s new stadium seems in limbo for myriad reasons.

Start with the fact the Bills, long ago, made it clear they would not sign a lease extension with Erie County for 2023 unless a stadium deal is in place.

 

Right now it is not, and the current lease expires in July.

 

Meanwhile, it’s delay after delay with optimistic-sounding press releases but without explaining what the “progress” might actually be. And it seems the Erie County media is reluctant to push back on those say-nothing updates, maybe feeling criticism and investigation would only gum up construction.

 

What’s certain is there are obstacles in getting the lease signed and the stadium approved with an April 2026 completion date.

 

Local unions are critical of the use of out-of-town contractors and material distributors. Also at issue is the use of Canadian precast brick rather than hand-placed brick by area masons. Plus, it’s rumored that out-of-town contractors will handle the plumbing and electrical work.

 

The result is that the Buffalo Building Trades Council will not support the stadium project unless changes are made.

 

And, finally, there’s one other not insignificant factor.

 

Last June, Kim Pegula, wife of Terry and co-owner of the Bills, Sabres and Pegula Sports & Entertainment, suffered a cardiac arrest. And though she was resuscitated and is now in rehab, her presidency of the sports teams and PS&E is over due to the effect of the cardiac issue on her brain and communication skills, according to her daughter Jessica, a star on the Women’s Tennis Association Tour.

[Ann]

Votes

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

This would have cost less! 

 

 

 

 

[Nanker]

On 3/9/2023 at 6:31 AM, Ann said:

This would have cost less! 

 

 

 

 

I want them to install a giant gimbal at mid-50 yard line under the field. When The Bills have the ball, the field tilts down toward the goal line they're advancing toward. When their opponent has the ball, the filed tilts up toward the goal line they are advancing toward. They could increase the height variance depending on how much we hate the opposing team. 

[Ann]

The news
 

 

[Ann]

Moving along
 

 

[Spartacus]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

Moving along
 

 

is this the meeting where they announce the Batavia site?

[Ann]

Baby steps
 

 

[Ann]

As stadium construction begins, Bills executive Ron Raccuia says 2023 parking will be mostly the same

Buffalo Bills executive vice president/chief operating officer Ron Raccuia has a message for fans who want to park at home games over the next three years while construction of the new stadium is underway across the street from Highmark Stadium: Be patient in 2024-25.

 

During an interview with The Buffalo News at the NFL’s annual meeting, Raccuia laid out the parking logistics.

 

“We don’t think we’re going to reduce much of anything this year – 2023 should have little-to-no impact for the regular fans,” he said. “Our overriding philosophy is the more spots we can have for our fans, the better. We may lose some things (this year) by potentially reducing or eliminating some of the RV spots.”

 

The Bills will move staff parking off site and Raccuia said the team will be “very thoughtful in making sure we have enough spots for our fans as this progresses.”
Raccuia said the parking situation “will change from (this year) to 2024 and then in 2025, it will be a little more difficult.”

When the new stadium is scheduled to open in 2026, Raccuia said the existing Highmark Stadium location will have parking spots “until the (land) is developed and we’ll have more parking spots by a few hundred.”

 

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[Ann]

New Bills Stadium
 

 

[Ann]

A few hundred million here, a few hundred million there... pretty soon it adds up and you are talking real money!
 

 

[JPPT1974]

Just think it is about time for a new stadium that should have happened decades ago.

[Spartacus]

13 hours ago, Ann said:

A few hundred million here, a few hundred million there... pretty soon it adds up and you are talking real money!
 

 

pretty impressive

140 mil increase before a shovel hits the ground

and the union change orders start to hit

 

the cost of those PSL's will just keep going up to cover the overruns

 

 

 

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/new-bills-stadium-price-tag-rises-now-estimated-at-1-54-billion/article_8643028a-cccf-11ed-983b-0b744acced2b.html?mode=comments

 

 

 

Edited March 28, 2023 by Spartacus

[Spartacus]

The partial covering looks to be really "partial"

not a lot of coverage, especially if its rainy and the wind blows

 

Speaking of wind.

the stadium walls are made of see through mesh, which seems to be their plan to confuse the wind into the concourses and avoid the playing field

 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/stadium-news