COVID-19 Viruses and Vaccines

[Nouseforaname]

38 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I understand all of this, however, if we are all in agreement that most people ain't that smart, and we're all in agreement that DC has done a bang-up job pitting people against each other on COVID ("a pandemic of the unvaccinated"), it certainly stands to reason that ain't-so-smart people don't really understand the role of a vaccine after being told repeatedly  by the current administration that if you get the vaccine, you will NOT get Covid.

 

It was clearly a blatant lie to mislead and divide. The Spartacus' of the world notwithstanding, there are good reasons why many people believe a vaccine is 100% effective.

 

Because that is what they were told and for many people, just being told something is good enough for them.

We are in agreement.

[Spartacus]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-covid-unvaccinated-are-the-control-group-heres-how-they-fared_4745779.html

 

Due to the highly valuable health data of this unvaccinated population, between October 2021 and February 2022, a UK-based organization called Control Group Cooperative (CGC) independently collected their self-reported data on their health status, reasons for declining to receive the COVID-19 vaccines, whether they have been infected by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the severity of their symptoms for the ones that did get infected, and whether they’ve been subject to discrimination or victimization.

These data have then been analyzed by a team of researchers, who are entirely independent of the CGC and have received no funding for interpreting the findings of the CGC survey. Their recent report on their findings has been published on the International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice, and Research, which is a peer-reviewed scholarly open access journal.

What Is the Control Group Cooperative?

The Control Group Cooperative was founded in July 2021 to defend people’s inalienable rights to freedom of choice and bodily integrity. Actually, one of the core principles in public health is the respect of autonomy. The group is particularly concerned with the marginalization and stigmatization of COVID-19 unvaccinated communities around the world. The stakeholders of the cooperative believe that they are making a positive contribution to society by collecting health data from both the SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated and the unvaccinated to facilitate a truly comparative analysis.

[Spartacus]

highly tested, proven safe and effective

what's better than a "biological plausibility" that the new jab might work

 

however, stronger possibility that CDC may change definitions again so they can claim success

 

on aside note, seems all the mice did not die like the ferrets did (at least not yet)

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/data-newly-authorized-covid-19-boosters-based-mice-not-humans

 

The preclinical data for the just-authorized COVID-19 booster shots are based on just mice, not humans, because U.S. authorities believe waiting for human trial data would have made the updated boosters outdated.

 

“If we wait for those data to emerge in human data, not just mice data, we will be using what I would consider to be a potentially outdated vaccine,” Walensky said on “Conversations on Health Care” during a segment broadcast on Aug. 29.

 

The data for Pfizer’s booster was based on just 8 mice, Pfizer scientists told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) vaccine advisory panel in June. 

 

 

“We do not have human data on this new booster, either antibody data or clinical data. However, there is biological plausibility that these updated boosters will curb cases by increasing antibodies as we enter the winter,” Gandhi told The Epoch Times in an email.

 

 

 I’d draw an analogy to getting a new paint job on your car—that would not trigger the need for a full-service check into all the safety features

Edited September 30, 2022 by Spartacus

[Spartacus]

what a shock!

The FDA protecting their Big Pharma  masters at the expense of the patients

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-withholding-autopsy-results-people-who-died-after-getting-covid-19-vaccines

 

The refusal was issued to The Epoch Times, which submitted a Freedom of Information Act for all autopsy reported obtained by the FDA concerning any deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System following COVID-19 vaccination.

 

Reports are lodged with the system when a person experiences an adverse event, or a health issue, after receiving a vaccine. The FDA and other agencies are tasked with investigating the reports. Authorities request and review medical records to vet the reports, including autopsies.

 

An FDA spokesperson noted that deaths following COVID-19 vaccination are rare, citing the number of reports made to VAERS.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Biden phones hero Coast Guard diver to congratulate him for rescuing lives of Florida residents - just days before he will FIRE him for being unvaccinated as 20,000 members of military face axe

by Paul Farrell

 

A Coast Guard rescue swimmer was publicly thanked by President Joe Biden for his Hurricane Ian heroics, days before he is due to be fired over the military's Covid-19 vaccine policy. 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11271103/Biden-congratulates-Coast-Guard-rescue-swimmer-Hurricane-Ian-heroics.html

 

 

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[SackMan518]

Watching this now for free. Under an hour.

 

Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion

[Nouseforaname]

 

[Spartacus]

8 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said:

 

why is a conversation needed?

stupid is, as stupid does

 

[Fansince88]

3 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

Watching this now for free. Under an hour.

 

Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion

Your review?

[SackMan518]

16 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

Your review?

 

It was ok. They didn't really tell us anything that those of us who aren't brainwashed didn't know already. Some of the stories from vaccine injuries were pretty heartbreaking. Worth a watch if you want to rehash it or send it to a friend who isn't keen on what's real science and what isn't.

[Fansince88]

Just now, SackMan518 said:

 

It was ok. They didn't really tell us anything that those of us who aren't brainwashed didn't know already. Some of the stories from vaccine injuries were pretty heartbreaking. Worth a watch if you want to rehash it or send it to a friend who isn't keen on what's real science and what isn't.

Thanks. I will check it out.

[Ann]

7 hours ago, Nouseforaname said:

 

We are taking a TA cruise home. As of now, we need to take a proctored Covid test to get on the ship, and I am apprehensive about someone sticking a qtip up my nose. Over on the cruise forum, people who have had four and five boosters (not kidding) have assured us it is nothing to worry about because they test weekly!!!
 

There are a lot of mentally ill people in this world.

 

[Spartacus]

3 hours ago, Ann said:

We are taking a TA cruise home. As of now, we need to take a proctored Covid test to get on the ship, and I am apprehensive about someone sticking a qtip up my nose. Over on the cruise forum, people who have had four and five boosters (not kidding) have assured us it is nothing to worry about because they test weekly!!!
 

There are a lot of mentally ill people in this world.

 

jamming swabs deep into your nose is a good tool to plant the virus

and people wonder why the virus spread so rapidly after testing was pushed for everyone- even those without symptoms

[Spartacus]

no- they don't 

even the CDC has given up

 

 

 

Doctors Aren’t Happy About the CDC’s New Mask Guidelines for Health Care Settings (msn.com)

 

“Masks do provide protection against COVID, RSV, and influenza,” Dr. Schaffner says. So, whether you’re immunocompromised or generally healthy and boosted, it certainly doesn’t hurt to wear one in public, especially at the doctor’s office. After all, the importance of taking care of each other—and the simple steps we can take to do that—shouldn’t be a lesson we forget so soon.

 

[Spartacus]

I see they've given up testing on ferrets

 

‘The joke is on us’: Nonprofit at the center of COVID-19 conspiracies received new NIH grant, sparking claims of hush money, new pandemic (msn.com)

 

A new grant from NIH to EcoHealth Alliance is fueling a fresh round of outrage. The $650,000 grant awarded to Daszak's organization will fund research into coronaviruses, specifically by performing genetic sequencing on the virus in bat and human populations in Myanmar, Laos, and Vietnam.

 

 

 

[Nouseforaname]

4 hours ago, Ann said:

We are taking a TA cruise home. As of now, we need to take a proctored Covid test to get on the ship, and I am apprehensive about someone sticking a qtip up my nose. Over on the cruise forum, people who have had four and five boosters (not kidding) have assured us it is nothing to worry about because they test weekly!!!
 

There are a lot of mentally ill people in this world.

 

I agree. Fear of COVID has now become a mental illness.

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, Nouseforaname said:

I agree. Fear of COVID has now become a mental illness.

Now? NOW??

[Nouseforaname]

10 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Now? NOW??

Not just now. 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

44 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Now? NOW??

 

In March of 2020, fear of COVID was arguably sane, for fear of the unknown.  

 

The people who live in so much fear of COVID now probably feared every infectious disease before COVID - people who had "anti-bacterial" cutting boards in their kitchen, sanitized every surface, washed their hands compulsively.  Western culture has become so far removed from infectious disease since the advent of antibiotics that there's an argument to be had about how much of that is "mental illness" and how much "mass delusion."  

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

13 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

 

It was ok. They didn't really tell us anything that those of us who aren't brainwashed 

 

Yeah, no one but you knows the truth.  Because you read zerohedge.