COVID-19 Viruses and Vaccines

[Fansince88]

50 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

You have my condolences.  May your dad RIP.

 

Will say a prayer for your family.

Thanks. We heal daily and look ahead towards a great reunion. 

[Foxx]

No, this isn't a, 'would ya' post. But yes, I would.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1448732648516562946

 

[Foxx]

It was only a matter of time...

coming soon to a theater near you...

 

https://twitter.com/couriermail/status/1447088254860341250

 

[Spartacus]

39 minutes ago, Foxx said:

It was only a matter of time...

coming soon to a theater near you...

 

https://twitter.com/couriermail/status/1447088254860341250

 

just skip the jab

catch covid and take ivermerctin or HSQ/ zinc

natural immunity!

 

[NCBillsFan]

26 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

just skip the jab

catch covid and take ivermerctin or HSQ/ zinc

natural immunity!

 

 

Let's look beyond the headlines..

 

It sounds counterintuitive but the argument is if you are vaccinated and catch Covid, you are unlikely to get seriously ill or go to hospital and getting the virus will further boost your immunity.

 

Gee, where have we heard that before? Not exactly supporting @Spartacus argument here is it? Maybe trying reading the links sometime?

 

“You might want to get it, you definitely want to get it. You definitely want to be vaccinated before you get it, because if you’re vaccinated your risk of death goes down,” said Prof. Collignon.

 

Really? I've heard this before too. And it's actually supported by real data. 

 

A study by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and another by one of Israel’s largest health providers found people who’d recovered from Covid and were later vaccinated had half the risk of reinfection compared with unvaccinated people who’d previously had Covid.

 

Oh.

 

Many vaccinated people are likely to get infected because vaccines are less effective at preventing infection with the Delta variant.

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However, the vaccines are still good at preventing 80-90 per cent of infected people from needing a hospital bed and are almost 100 per cent protective against death.

 

This can't be true, @Spartacus has the zerohedge links to prove it.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

12 minutes ago, NCBillsFan said:

 

Let's look beyond the headlines..

 

It sounds counterintuitive but the argument is if you are vaccinated and catch Covid, you are unlikely to get seriously ill or go to hospital

 

Of course, if you are unvaccinated and catch COVID, you're unlikely to get seriously ill or go to the hospital, too.  The significant difference between two rare events is often, in science reporting , used to mask the fact that both events are RARE.

 

It's a commonly abuse of statistics in manipulation in all reporting, in fact.  "X reduces Y by 90%!" is often used to promote "X," by not disclosing that the frequency of "Y" isn't significant to start with.

 

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

It was only a matter of time...

coming soon to a theater near you...

 

https://twitter.com/couriermail/status/1447088254860341250

 

 

So in other words...masking mandates and policies are counter-productive for interfering with herd immunity.

 

I can't believe we're approaching two years of this bullshit "Follow the science...no, not that science!  Not that science either!" policy formulation.

 

[GG1]

More bad news for Spartacus' lies.

 

Biden exposes the govt's true colors in dealing with Moderna.  And people wonder why pharmas didn't want to work with the government or insisted on litigation protection.

 

Biden’s Moderna Vaccine Double-Cross

Officials thank the biotech startup for saving lives by making it a political scapegoat.

..

Before the pandemic, Moderna had invested more than $2.5 billion in developing its platform, which includes the lipid nanoparticles that encapsulate the mRNA. It has more than 30 mRNA vaccines and therapeutics in its clinical pipeline, and before the pandemic six prophylactic vaccines had shown positive results in Phase 1 trials.

This is why the National Institutes of Health in January 2020 sought to collaborate with Moderna on a Covid vaccine. Large drug makers were reluctant to step up, as Anthony Fauci and Ron Klain (now White House chief of staff) explained at the time, because some had lost money trying to produce an Ebola vaccine. They didn’t want to take that risk again.

......

Progressives in effect want Mr. Biden to hand America’s precious biotech secrets to the Chinese and Russians. Nothing in Moderna’s contracts with the U.S. government gives the Administration the right to do this, and it would set a horrendous precedent that would discourage innovation and private collaboration with the government in future pandemics.

Pfizer is looking even smarter for rejecting government funding for its trials. “When you get money from someone, that always comes with strings,” CEO Albert Bourla said last September. But Pfizer unlike Moderna has a huge balance sheet.

 

 

[Nouseforaname]

On 10/13/2021 at 10:58 PM, Fansince88 said:

You raise some great points. My last conversation with my dad before he passed on Monday we discussed the vaccine mandates. He said he would never fold and take the vaccine on Dr. orders. He was told not to. He contracted covid and passed away because his heart was too damaged to handle it Per the Dr that treated him. All that said, my dad also said he would go to his grave a free man and that is just what he did. For that he has made me proud. He did not buckle under the pressure and that is where I am standing too. I will not comply!!

 

My condolences.

[Spartacus]

5 hours ago, GG1 said:

More bad news for Spartacus' lies.

 

Biden exposes the govt's true colors in dealing with Moderna.  And people wonder why pharmas didn't want to work with the government or insisted on litigation protection.

 

Biden’s Moderna Vaccine Double-Cross

Officials thank the biotech startup for saving lives by making it a political scapegoat.

..

Before the pandemic, Moderna had invested more than $2.5 billion in developing its platform, which includes the lipid nanoparticles that encapsulate the mRNA. It has more than 30 mRNA vaccines and therapeutics in its clinical pipeline, and before the pandemic six prophylactic vaccines had shown positive results in Phase 1 trials.

This is why the National Institutes of Health in January 2020 sought to collaborate with Moderna on a Covid vaccine. Large drug makers were reluctant to step up, as Anthony Fauci and Ron Klain (now White House chief of staff) explained at the time, because some had lost money trying to produce an Ebola vaccine. They didn’t want to take that risk again.

......

Progressives in effect want Mr. Biden to hand America’s precious biotech secrets to the Chinese and Russians. Nothing in Moderna’s contracts with the U.S. government gives the Administration the right to do this, and it would set a horrendous precedent that would discourage innovation and private collaboration with the government in future pandemics.

Pfizer is looking even smarter for rejecting government funding for its trials. “When you get money from someone, that always comes with strings,” CEO Albert Bourla said last September. But Pfizer unlike Moderna has a huge balance sheet.

 

 

maybe we didn't need a jab that doesn't work

[GG1]

45 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

maybe we didn't need a jab that doesn't work

 

Prove it.

[Nouseforaname]

5 hours ago, GG1 said:

 

Prove it.

Crickets.

[Ann]

 

 

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1449446721952665602

[Nouseforaname]

21 minutes ago, Ann said:

 

 

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1449446721952665602

Nothing shocking about that. It’s literally mentioned every time gottlieb is on an interview.

[Spartacus]

28 minutes ago, Meazza said:

Nothing shocking about that. It’s literally mentioned every time gottlieb is on an interview.

No problem that the agency heads tasked with overseeing big pharma are bought and paid for

 

no wonder the 7-10 yr vaccine testing protocol was ignored

 

[Nouseforaname]

25 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

No problem that the agency heads tasked with overseeing big pharma are bought and paid for

 

no wonder the 7-10 yr vaccine testing protocol was ignored

 

Bought and paid for ? Who would you choose to head the fda? Jabba the Hutt?

 

Have you ever done anything of significant in your life except read zerohedge articles because your knowledge of the real world is quite lacking.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

27 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

No problem that the agency heads tasked with overseeing big pharma are bought and paid for

 

no wonder the 7-10 yr vaccine testing protocol was ignored

 

 

You tend to want agency heads who have industry knowledge of the industry they regulate.  Conversely, you tend to want corporate executives with regulatory knowledge of the industry they're in as well.

 

The alternative you're arguing for is putting ignorant and inexperienced dolts in charge.  Like Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez on the House Financial Committee, or Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation. 

 

How's that alternative working out so far?

[Nouseforaname]

48 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

You tend to want agency heads who have industry knowledge of the industry they regulate.  Conversely, you tend to want corporate executives with regulatory knowledge of the industry they're in as well.

 

The alternative you're arguing for is putting ignorant and inexperienced dolts in charge.  Like Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez on the House Financial Committee, or Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation. 

 

How's that alternative working out so far?

Maybe Tyler durden from zero hedge could head the fda?  

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

47 minutes ago, Meazza said:

Maybe Tyler durden from zero hedge could head the fda?  

 

No. Jeff Rense.

 

You don't go full goose bozo until you go rense.com.

[Foxx]

53 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

No. Jeff Rense.

 

You don't go full goose bozo until you go rense.com.

You mean the pretty boy who can't stop talking about himself?

[Nouseforaname]

59 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

No. Jeff Rense.

 

You don't go full goose bozo until you go rense.com.

 

 

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Important - Not every piece of beef in the meat department held the magnet. Some did
and some didn't. Is iron (Fe) being added to some beef cattle feed to dose American
consumers? Is it a certain kind of nanotech magnetite? It seems that some kind of
magnetic material is playing a role in the Bioweapon Spike Program attack on America

 

Brilliant