COVID-19 Viruses and Vaccines

[Spartacus]

7 hours ago, Meazza said:

 

How does that number do when taking into account a hospital that is overwhelmed?

if the health care masters cared at all about hospital care being overwhelmed,

maybe firing non-vaxxed front line workers for no tangible benefit is not a really good program

[Nouseforaname]

11 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

if the health care masters cared at all about hospital care being overwhelmed,

maybe firing non-vaxxed front line workers for no tangible benefit is not a really good program

This is why you’re a terrible debater.  I don’t believe in forcing vaccines on anyone .

 

You’re the one that’s conflating politics and health.  I never have.

[IDBillzFan]

On 9/29/2021 at 3:08 PM, Meazza said:

There are still enough people who think that deaths from Covid were actually the flu or that it was greatly exaggerated or that some medication touted by trump for a few weeks was the recipe for success.

 

Hell, there are still enough people who openly proclaim that the unvaccinated are responsible for killing the vaccinated.

 

Can you imagine being THAT person? That's just embarrassing.

 

[Nouseforaname]

30 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Hell, there are still enough people who openly proclaim that the unvaccinated are responsible for killing the vaccinated.

 

Can you imagine being THAT person? That's just embarrassing.

 

 

Yes there's plenty of people who should be embarrassed.  

[IDBillzFan]

20 minutes ago, Meazza said:

 

Yes there's plenty of people who should be embarrassed.  

 

And yet I'm considerably less concerned with the FB message from my deranged Aunt Agnes than I am with, you know, the global message my deranged POTUS.

[Uncle Joe]

2 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Hell, there are still enough people who openly proclaim that the unvaccinated are responsible for killing the vaccinated.

 

Can you imagine being THAT person? That's just embarrassing.

 

Please refrain from any nasty comments as I knew the deceased.
Vaccinated man with ALS died from COVID-19, wished ‘everyone who could’ would get the shot
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/09/vaccinated-man-with-als-died-from-covid-19-wished-everyone-who-could-would-get-the-shot.html

I took a peak at the article comments on facebook. Many of the comments are utter trash.  Basically bait click for Olive. Read the whole article for perspective.
RIP Paulie.
 

Edited October 1, 2021 by Uncle Joe

[Nouseforaname]

41 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

And yet I'm considerably less concerned with the FB message from my deranged Aunt Agnes than I am with, you know, the global message my deranged POTUS.

 

I'm concered with everyone to be honest.

 

I'm concerned with why Democrats think that if you catch COVID, you have a 50% chance of being hospitalized.

 

I'm concerned with why friends of mine who would talk to me about every single covid case at their workplace with great fear all of a sudden refuse a vaccine which is supposed to reduce those fears.

 

I'm concerned with why NFL players who take thousands of shots to the head as well as performance enhancing drugs and won't likely live beyond 50 are all of a sudden worried about a vaccine.

 

[Ann]

 

https://twitter.com/GarysheffieldJr/status/1443946148750774282

[Spartacus]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/covid-19-detention-camps-are-government-round-ups-resistors-our-future

 

This is what we know: the government has the means, the muscle and the motivation to detain individuals who resist its orders and do not comply with its mandates in a vast array of prisons, detention centers, and FEMA concentration camps paid for with taxpayer dollars.

 

It’s just a matter of time.

It no longer matters what the hot-button issue might be (vaccine mandates, immigration, gun rights, abortion, same-sex marriage, healthcare, criticizing the government, protesting election results, etc.) or which party is wielding its power like a hammer.

 

The groundwork has already been laid.

Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the President and the military can detain and imprison American citizens with no access to friends, family or the courts if the government believes them to be a terrorist.

So it should come as no surprise that merely criticizing the government or objecting to a COVID-19 vaccine could get you labeled as a terrorist.

 

After all, it doesn’t take much to be considered a terrorist anymore, especially given that the government likes to use the words “anti-government,” “extremist” and “terrorist” interchangeably.

For instance, the Department of Homeland Security broadly defines extremists as individuals, military veterans and groups “that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”

 

Military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan may also be characterized as extremists and potential domestic terrorist threats by the government because they may be “disgruntled, disillusioned or suffering from the psychological effects of war.”

 

Indeed, if you believe in and exercise your rights under the Constitution (namely, your right to speak freely, worship freely, associate with like-minded individuals who share your political views, criticize the government, own a weapon, demand a warrant before being questioned or searched, or any other activity viewed as potentially anti-government, racist, bigoted, anarchic or sovereign), you could be at the top of the government’s terrorism watch list.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

On 10/3/2021 at 9:55 AM, Spartacus said:

 

For instance, the Department of Homeland Security broadly defines extremists as individuals, military veterans and groups “that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”

 

 

 

One caveat is that that isn't the official definition: it's a hand-waving footnote in the linked document.  

 

But...it is worrisome, and the same footnote also lists "opposition to abortion or immigration" as extremism.

 

Also dates back to 2009, so not only is it old news, not being acted upon...but given the time it takes to craft and publish such documents, it probably dates back to the late Bush administration.

[GG1]

Delta is now in a full on retreat.  FLA cases at 3 month lows.

 

Must have been the mandates that were implemented last week.

[devnull]

6 minutes ago, GG1 said:

Delta is now in a full on retreat.  FLA cases at 3 month lows.

 

Must have been the mandates that were implemented last week.

 

Delta was on the retreat before any of the mandates.

 

But Fauci and the DNC (but I repeat my self) already knew this.  Biden really needed a win after the Afghanistan fiasco.

 

It was going to happen anyway, and now Dear Leader can claim credit

[GG1]

1 minute ago, devnull said:

 

Delta was on the retreat before any of the mandates.

 

But Fauci and the DNC (but I repeat my self) already knew this.  Biden really needed a win after the Afghanistan fiasco.

 

It was going to happen anyway, and now Dear Leader can claim credit

 

In August, I had a brief, short, tiny bit of optimism that when Diblabla announced his vaccine mandates that would take effect in September, they were doing it so they could see the forecast drop in cases by Sept.  Obvioulsy that feeling didn't last too long.

 

Of course they knew that the new cases would plummet in September, even with a return to school.

[Spartacus]

13 hours ago, GG1 said:

 

In August, I had a brief, short, tiny bit of optimism that when Diblabla announced his vaccine mandates that would take effect in September, they were doing it so they could see the forecast drop in cases by Sept.  Obvioulsy that feeling didn't last too long.

 

Of course they knew that the new cases would plummet in September, even with a return to school.

Delta is done just in time for the booster roll out to claim credit

look for mu to take off

 

[GG1]

Polar opposite moves.

 

Pfizer study to vaccinate whole Brazilian town against COVID

BRASILIA (Reuters) - Pfizer Inc will study the effectiveness of its vaccine against COVID-19 by inoculating the whole population over the age of 12 in a town in southern Brazil, the company said on Wednesday.

The study will be conducted in Toledo, population 143,000, in the west of Parana state, together with Brazil's National Vaccination Program, local health authorities, a hospital and the federal university.

 

 

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Sweden suspends Moderna vaccine for those 30 and under

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — Swedish health authorities on Wednesday suspended the use of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine for those ages 30 and under, saying the move was done out of precaution.

The reason for the pausing is “signals of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle or the pericardium” — the double-walled sac containing the heart and the roots of the main vessels, Sweden’s Public Health Agency said in a statement. “The risk of being affected is very small.”

 

[NCBillsFan]

14 hours ago, Spartacus said:

Delta is done just in time for the booster roll out to claim credit

look for mu to take off

 

 

Instead of using that as a constant unsubstantiated zero hedge talking point...why don't you monitor the actual data and let us all know when it reaches even 1% of total cases (currently <0.04%) from surveillance data?

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

 

 

[Spartacus]

26 minutes ago, NCBillsFan said:

 

Instead of using that as a constant unsubstantiated zero hedge talking point...why don't you monitor the actual data and let us all know when it reaches even 1% of total cases (currently <0.04%) from surveillance data?

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

 

 

need the booster program to be rolled out 

to get MU to explode in the US, like the Delta did in 2021 in conjunction with the 2 jab program

 

 

[NCBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

need the booster program to be rolled out 

to get MU to explode in the US, like the Delta did in 2021 in conjunction with the 2 jab program

 

 

 

So your answer to my question about looking at actual data is to parrot more BS zerohedge nonsense. Im shocked.  

 

You're a useless poster.

[Ann]

1 hour ago, NCBillsFan said:

 

Instead of using that as a constant unsubstantiated zero hedge talking point...why don't you monitor the actual data and let us all know when it reaches even 1% of total cases (currently <0.04%) from surveillance data?

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

 

 

Yeah I thought I read MU fizzled.  From that chart, it looks like once Delta is done this is over (unless something else pops up)?



 

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

Yeah I thought I read MU fizzled.  From that chart, it looks like once Delta is done this is over (unless something else pops up)?



 

And let a perfectly good control mechanism go to waste?