Cinga Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, B-Man said: The Supreme Court Returns Legislative Power to the Legislative Branch CONGRESS: Clearly this is the end of democracy WE THE PEOPLE: Again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ann said: Remain in Mexico is kaput. The invasion is allowed. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-954_7l48.pdf It was arguably the right decision, for the same reasons that Trump should have been able to overturn DACA. The real problem is that immigration law is so convoluted and overly broad that it delegates too much of that decision making to the executive...but that is the law, and the redress should be legislative, not judicial. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 The Supreme Court’s Civics Lesson by Noah Rothman A momentous term for the Supreme Court ended on Thursday with one of the most consequential rulings it has handed down this year. With its decision in West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency, the Court has affirmed the notion that it is the purview of Congress—not the federal bureaucracy—to write laws. That lesson will be bitterly resisted, which is why it is so vital. In this case, the Court was asked to determine whether the EPA has the authority to set rules around emissions generated by coal-burning power plants that are so strict they could have no other effect than to remove coal from the nation’s electricity mix. The Court ruled that this administrative effort to render an entire sector of the economy obsolete was not supported by statute or Congressional intent. Indeed, it was contemptuous of both. “EPA claimed to discover an unheralded power representing a transformative expansion of its regulatory authority in the vague language of a long-extant, but rarely used, statute designed as a gap filler,” read the syllabus of the decision authored by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. “That discovery allowed it to adopt a regulatory program that Congress had conspicuously declined to enact itself.” The EPA’s expansive interpretation of its statutory jurisdiction extended well beyond what Congress had approved. Indeed, the agency’s authority appeared to have been derived from that which Congress explicitly spurned. “Nor can the Court ignore that the regulatory writ EPA newly uncovered,” Roberts added, “conveniently enabled it to enact a program, namely, cap-and-trade for carbon, that Congress had already considered and rejected numerous times.” https://www.commentary.org/noah-rothman/the-supreme-courts-civics-lesson/ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: It was arguably the right decision, for the same reasons that Trump should have been able to overturn DACA. The real problem is that immigration law is so convoluted and overly broad that it delegates too much of that decision making to the executive...but that is the law, and the redress should be legislative, not judicial. Yeah, but the problem with this as I see is that it green lights that the executive can pick and chose what laws it wants to enforce. We have laws against illegal immigration, now that Biden can ignore them it will only get worse. I'd prefer the ruling had included "yeah, but you still must do your job to execute the law" Edited June 30, 2022 by Cinga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Cinga said: Yeah, but the problem with this as I see is that it green lights that the executive can pick and chose what laws it wants to enforce. We have laws against illegal immigration, now that Biden can ignore them it will only get worse. I'd prefer the ruling had included "yeah, but you still must do your job to execute the law" They always could, analogous to "prosecutorial discretion" (which is the basis of DACA.) Is it bullshit? Yes. Such bullshit that it was the primary reason the entire federal bureaucracy went against Trump (who was very much more an "enforce the laws as written" president, more so than anyone I can remember.) But it's also perfectly legal bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Biden backs filibuster changes to codify Roe v. Wade Jesus...is abortion so important that they have to blow up parliamentary process in ways that will invariably come back to bite them in the ass? The main reason Roe v. Wade was repealed is because of Harry Reid's short-sightedness in eliminating the filibuster. Do Democrats have any sense of perspective? Can they take a long-term view? Do they understand cause and effect? Or...reality? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: Biden backs filibuster changes to codify Roe v. Wade Jesus...is abortion so important that they have to blow up parliamentary process in ways that will invariably come back to bite them in the ass? The main reason Roe v. Wade was repealed is because of Harry Reid's short-sightedness in eliminating the filibuster. Do Democrats have any sense of perspective? Can they take a long-term view? Do they understand cause and effect? Or...reality? Perhaps things will get better for them now that they've just seated the first...well... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Perhaps things will get better for them now that they've just seated the first...well... Oh, that's who you were talking about, above. I'd forgotten completely about her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: Oh, that's who you were talking about, above. I'd forgotten completely about her. Can't say I blame you. Biden nominating a black woman to the SC ensured it was a cakewalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Can't say I blame you. Biden nominating a black woman to the SC ensured it was a cakewalk. I'm gravely disappointed at the lack of a Navajo trans quadriplegic on this court. And they claim to be woke. Edited June 30, 2022 by Crap Throwing Monkey 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I'm gravely disappointed at the lack of a Navajo trans quadriplegic on this court. And they claim to be woke. Oh sure, you're just trying to get 3 vvvotttesss with one seat! I see through your all inclusiveness of a ruse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Typical leftists: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 My God...that's the dumbest possible reply. Only biologists are allowed to determine gender? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 Is there yet hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 How long before we have the Congressional July 1st hearings? Define stupidity for me... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MothersMilk Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: My God...that's the dumbest possible reply. Only biologists are allowed to determine gender? Gender should be as easy as a take a look in your pants kind of thing... if you see a thing down there call yourself a biologist and determine that you are a male. If you see no thing you are a female. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Foxx said: Is there yet hope? How do you know you're doing the right things? Slate is losing their minds over it. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Foxx said: Is there yet hope? They need to correct that 4-4 PA ruling which was completely unconstitutional. Hopefully, this fixes that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, Foxx said: How long before we have the Congressional July 1st hearings? Define stupidity for me... I'm sure federal abortion clinics are somewhere in the Constitution. These people and their inability to understand checks and balances borders on criminal. "The justices misled us when we asked them pointed questions..." waaaaaaaaaaaah &#%$ing waaaaaaaaaaaah. Does your newest Supreme Court judge know her own gender? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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