Flores Suing NFL and NYG; Charges Racism

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, snafu said:

Ron Rivera still coaching?

 

 

He’s a white Hispanic.

[Fansince88]

17 hours ago, KD in CA said:

He’s a white Hispanic.

on his mothers side

[Ann]

It doesn't surprise me that he didn't comment on pending litigation. What did surprise me is that he did not rule out commenting about it in the future.

[Foxx]

Moar to join the suit.

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

19 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Moar to join the suit.

 

 

I like the speculation that it's "3-36" Hue Jackson and "Couldn't win a playoff game in 14 years" Marvin Lewis that were unfairly fired. 

[Spartacus]

now the NFL will have token blacks added to ownership groups, since the token  black interviewee program works so well

 

if it doesn't work, Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft will give away their teams at a charity auction 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/

 

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The challenges arising from the hiring of minority candidates for key positions within NFL organizations flow in many respects from the fact that so few teams are owned by minorities. 

 

With the goal of changing that reality, the NFL issued a joint statement from all teams on Monday.

 

“The NFL member clubs support the important goal of increasing diversity among ownership,” the statement declares. “Accordingly, when evaluating a prospective ownership group of a member club pursuant to League policies, the membership will regard it as a positive and meaningful factor if the group includes diverse individuals who would have a significant equity stake in and involvement with the club, including serving as the controlling owner of the club.”

[Alaska Darin]

3 hours ago, Spartacus said:

now the NFL will have token blacks added to ownership groups, since the token  black interviewee program works so well

 

if it doesn't work, Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft will give away their teams at a charity auction 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/

 

Getty Images

The challenges arising from the hiring of minority candidates for key positions within NFL organizations flow in many respects from the fact that so few teams are owned by minorities. 

 

With the goal of changing that reality, the NFL issued a joint statement from all teams on Monday.

 

“The NFL member clubs support the important goal of increasing diversity among ownership,” the statement declares. “Accordingly, when evaluating a prospective ownership group of a member club pursuant to League policies, the membership will regard it as a positive and meaningful factor if the group includes diverse individuals who would have a significant equity stake in and involvement with the club, including serving as the controlling owner of the club.”

Call me in 20 years and let me know how it's changed. 

[Spartacus]

15 hours ago, Spartacus said:

now the NFL will have token blacks added to ownership groups, since the token  black interviewee program works so well

 

if it doesn't work, Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft will give away their teams at a charity auction 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/

 

Getty Images

The challenges arising from the hiring of minority candidates for key positions within NFL organizations flow in many respects from the fact that so few teams are owned by minorities. 

 

With the goal of changing that reality, the NFL issued a joint statement from all teams on Monday.

 

“The NFL member clubs support the important goal of increasing diversity among ownership,” the statement declares. “Accordingly, when evaluating a prospective ownership group of a member club pursuant to League policies, the membership will regard it as a positive and meaningful factor if the group includes diverse individuals who would have a significant equity stake in and involvement with the club, including serving as the controlling owner of the club.”

Manning and Elway should self identify as black women, creating a lot of demand for their services in meeting the new NFL diversity guidelines for NFL ownership

 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/28/more-than-five-fewer-than-20-bidders-for-the-broncos/

 

Two potential names who know football fairly well are John Elway and Peyton Manning. Both have been mentioned as potentially being involved in ownership groups. But not as the controlling owner, given the extreme financial requirements.

[Ann]

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[Spartacus]

35 minutes ago, Ann said:

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18% of total NFL head coaches 

way higher than the 13% percentage of blacks in America

 

mission accomplished

dismiss the lawsuit

 

still waiting for those newly offended coaches joining the suit to be annouonced

maybe a special on ESPN on Fri night 

[IDBillzFan]

 

It's all a bunch of Mularkey. Literally.

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by IDBillzFan

[Alaska Darin]

Imagine your plan being "we're going to hire Mike Mularkey after we fire this coach" and thinking you're on the right path.

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

Here's the thing: if NFL teams were not forced to interview black prospects, Horton probably never gets interviewed in the first place.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

 

[Spartacus]

51 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

Here's the thing: if NFL teams were not forced to interview black prospects, Horton probably never gets interviewed in the first place.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

 

that was the whole point of the Rooney Rule to give minority coaches (who knew there were other minorities other than black) exposure to executives they would not have gotten otherwise.

 

not necessarily for the current position, but to get in the coaching invite loop

 

regardless of the Rooney Rule, teams will shy away from fringe black candidates, not because they may not be worthy - but way too much hassle to get rid of them if they suck- which is the much greater possibility

 

 

someone in Titan organization really pissed off Mularkey for him to spill the beans

 

similar situation happened with Steelers who were  locked in on Russ Grimm

but Tomlin changed enough minds to get the job

didn't hurt that Rooney was involved

 

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by Spartacus

[Alaska Darin]

Watching people sue because they didn't get jobs they likely didn't deserve is no reason not to hire them.

 

 

- Woke Mob

[Ann]

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[Crap Throwing Clavin]

14 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Watching people sue because they didn't get jobs they likely didn't deserve is no reason not to hire them.

 

 

- Woke Mob

 

Because jobs are a right, not a responsibility.

[Ann]

Honestly?  What do people expect? The Rooney rule is a box to be checked, but people CAN impress and get hired where they might not have had the opportunity without the rule. On the other hand, you cannot make an owner hire someone based on skin color or ethnicity. 
 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

45 minutes ago, Ann said:

Honestly?  What do people expect? The Rooney rule is a box to be checked, but people CAN impress and get hired where they might have had the opportunity without the rule.

 

 

Which was the express purpose of the rule: to give minority candidates greater exposure, so they could land a job on their qualifications.  

 

One of the major creators of the rule - Cyrus Mehri, a civil rights lawyer - admitted that not even two months ago.  It's a rule specifically designed to foster opportunity for competition, not guarantee outcome.  And he disagrees with most of Flores' suit as a misinterpretation of the rule.

[Alaska Darin]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

Honestly?  What do people expect? The Rooney rule is a box to be checked, but people CAN impress and get hired where they might not have had the opportunity without the rule. On the other hand, you cannot make an owner hire someone based on skin color or ethnicity. 
 

 

It happens in every business I've ever worked at.  I've been forced to interview people whose resumes shouldn't even have gotten to me even though we already had a perfect candidate (who we pretty much always ended up hiring).  In my case, it doesn't have anything to do with race, etc. but companies like having that plausible legal deniability.

We literally just had another meeting about it because they want us to hire more women.  Know how many resumes I got in the last 10 years from women?  ONE.  We hired her because she was awesome.  I constantly trumpet my 100% female hiring record.