Alaska Darin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ann said: ... He's a tantalizing guy because he has first round measurables but he plays far below his physical gifts. I wouldn't be thrilled if the BILLS picked him before about the 4th round because he lacks football instincts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said: He's a tantalizing guy because he has first round measurables but he plays far below his physical gifts. I wouldn't be thrilled if the BILLS picked him before about the 4th round because he lacks football instincts. Yeah. We already have one of those. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, B-Man said: Yeah. We already have one of those. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Four Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: He's a tantalizing guy because he has first round measurables but he plays far below his physical gifts. I wouldn't be thrilled if the BILLS picked him before about the 4th round at all because he lacks football instincts. FIFY. Sounds like someone we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said: He's a tantalizing guy because he has first round measurables but he plays far below his physical gifts. I wouldn't be thrilled if the BILLS picked him before about the 4th round because he lacks football instincts. What's his wonderlic score? Nevermind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Core Four said: FIFY. Sounds like someone we already have. I think it's fine to pick high upside guys later in the draft with the hope you can coach them. We've been pretty good under Beane making later picks into NFL players. If the BILLS think they can do it with Smith, his athleticism says he's worth the risk. It's rare for day 3 picks to be anything more than special teams players on good teams. That's a big mind set change for BILLS' fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Yeah. We already have one of those. Put 'em both on the field at the same time, and they're likely to run into each other, Keystone Kops style, in a hurry to cover the wrong gap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 We have 8 picks in this years draft. 8 picks are not going to make this roster. I would be okay with selecting 4 or 5 players and Beane jockeying around. Possibly moving up in the early draft and moving down in the later draft and accumulating capital for '23 to provide more ammo to do roughly the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Foxx said: We have 8 picks in this years draft. 8 picks are not going to make this roster. I would be okay with selecting 4 or 5 players and Beane jockeying around. Possibly moving up in the early draft and moving down in the later draft and accumulating capital for '23 to provide more ammo to do roughly the same. I don't think any scenario is off the table, including trading next year's number 1 and a player to get an additional 1st this season. I think a lot of it is just how the draft falls, which at this moment is as up in the air as and I can remember. I will be shocked if any mock out there even has the first 10 players correct, regardless of pick number or team. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, Alaska Darin said: I don't think any scenario is off the table, including trading next year's number 1 and a player to get an additional 1st this season. I think a lot of it is just how the draft falls, which at this moment is as up in the air as and I can remember. I will be shocked if any mock out there even has the first 10 players correct, regardless of pick number or team. They really need to trade up to high in the 1st round to draft a QB that can compete with Mac Jones and Tua Tagovailoa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said: I don't think any scenario is off the table, including trading next year's number 1 and a player to get an additional 1st this season. I think a lot of it is just how the draft falls, which at this moment is as up in the air as and I can remember. I will be shocked if any mock out there even has the first 10 players correct, regardless of pick number or team. Here is the mock I just did: Lots of players I would love to be able to get, but the current thinking is that if we could somehow land Hamilton, that would fantastic. He might very well be that 'monster' that would bring this D to the next level and make the 4-2 what it can be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: Here is the mock I just did: Lots of players I would love to be able to get, but the current thinking is that if we could somehow land Hamilton, that would fantastic. He might very be that 'monster' that would bring this d to the next level and make the 4-2 what is can be. Hamilton is going to be a great pro and I hope he's completely healed from that injury. I'd love to see him in Buffalo because he's basically a positionless player - you can use him for almost anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Four Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said: I think it's fine to pick high upside guys later in the draft with the hope you can coach them. We've been pretty good under Beane making later picks into NFL players. If the BILLS think they can do it with Smith, his athleticism says he's worth the risk. It's rare for day 3 picks to be anything more than special teams players on good teams. That's a big mind set change for BILLS' fans. This does make a lot of sense; rounds 5-7 could worth a flier. My fear is that it could mean we're stuck with Edmunds while they're coaching up a late round potential MLB. FWIW, I'm not a fan of how this scheme treats the LBs like safety/LB hybrids. I'm not convinced they'll be able to get the 'right' guy for the position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Core Four said: This does make a lot of sense; rounds 5-7 could worth a flier. My fear is that it could mean we're stuck with Edmunds while they're coaching up a late round potential MLB. FWIW, I'm not a fan of how this scheme treats the LBs like safety/LB hybrids. I'm not convinced they'll be able to get the 'right' guy for the position. the reincarnation of Luke Keukle will be obtained this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Core Four said: This does make a lot of sense; rounds 5-7 could worth a flier. My fear is that it could mean we're stuck with Edmunds while they're coaching up a late round potential MLB. FWIW, I'm not a fan of how this scheme treats the LBs like safety/LB hybrids. I'm not convinced they'll be able to get the 'right' guy for the position. I am pretty sure we are "stuck" with Edmunds this year regardless. He's been in the system four years and this is a Super Bowl push. I doubt they replace him (but never say never). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Core Four Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ann said: I am pretty sure we are "stuck" with Edmunds this year regardless. He's been in the system four years and this is a Super Bowl push. I doubt they replace him (but never say never). What if, in McD and Beane's minds, Edmunds held some responsibility for Kelce and Hill running right through Edmunds' territory? I'd have to re-watch the end of that game, but I recall them catching and running through the MLB area. If I'm at least somewhat correct in my recollection, I wonder if that plays a role in draft decisions. In the WC round in Jan 2020, Edmunds played 15-20 yards off the LOS when the Texans only needed 9 or 10 yards for that infamous first down. He was a big reason the Bills lost that game, so the precedent of Edmunds poor situational awareness is known. Why would they trust or rely on him going forward in a SB push? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Four Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, Spartacus said: the reincarnation of Luke Keukle will be obtained this year Who would that be? I'd love for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, Core Four said: What if, in McD and Beane's minds, Edmunds held some responsibility for Kelce and Hill running right through Edmunds' territory? I'd have to re-watch the end of that game, but I recall them catching and running through the MLB area. If I'm at least somewhat correct in my recollection, I wonder if that plays a role in draft decisions. In the WC round in Jan 2020, Edmunds played 15-20 yards off the LOS when the Texans only needed 9 or 10 yards for that infamous first down. He was a big reason the Bills lost that game, so the precedent of Edmunds poor situational awareness is known. Why would they trust or rely on him going forward in a SB push? Were they told to play that far off? They were gassed, no doubt, but who called the defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Four Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Ann said: Were they told to play that far off? They were gassed, no doubt, but who called the defense? Leslie Frazier makes the defensive calls. He would have those answers. That's the other weak link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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