DeAndre Hopkins/[Permission to seek trade/Its now or never/Elvis] Released!

[Beer__League__Hockey]

31 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

As a self-described homer, I believe Davis is going to take all the criticisms, combine it with the DHop talk, and use it to push himself into a great year. I don't know that he'll ever be a WR1, but he absolutely is underappreciated, in my homer mind.

[Fansince88]

3 hours ago, SquirminThurman said:

IMO The Floyd singing put the kaibash on Hopkins, and may be just as important. As great as the Bills D has been ranked through the past few regular seasons, it struggled to generate pass rush when it mattered in the playoffs. Floyd is an 8-10 sack guy and should help. I really like it and think Floyd > Hopkins to this team. It also tells me the Bills probably offered 8-10 million to Hopkins team and they refused, so the Bills spent that 8-10 Million on Floyd. Wise move if Dhop did not want to play for that 'discount'. It also shows D-Hop's actual intentions, which is still $$$. Poona Ford and Floyd both settled for 'decent paychecks' and team friendly deals to join the Bills and a chance at a ring.

 

BTW just because I have been critical of Hopkins, doesn't mean I dislike him or what he has done in the NFL. I can dislike the current game and probable ROI without disliking the player. D-Hop has been a terrific WR.

 

The Oliver extension probably put an end to Davis extending here. Buffalo also has a TON of dead-cap space on voidable years in 2024-2026, so extensions are going to be tough. This is why people like me keep speaking of 'windows'. The Bills have entered dangerous voidable year territory. The draft has to count now.

 

I am all for a good pass rush and I hope we see the best of big Ed to come. I hope OBD realizes he needs a big space eating/ double team eater at 1 gap DT to get the best out of Oliver (3 gap with short arms) and plan on drafting one early soon.

 

As for Davis he is a 1990's-2000 style WR2. I like that type personally. (Think Alvin Harper or Lee Evans). I think a lot of Bills fans unfairly blamed him for the total collapse of production at WR3 last season. Davis is very good at what he does and will be a priority FA after next year.

 

All of that taken in, I like having 3 or 4, 8 to10 sack a year guys and I think this defense will be a real force and less of a paper tiger this year. That will help the offense and ST even more with field position and turnovers when in it counts.

 

I'm feeling better this offseason than last offseason.

I agree with the bolded.

[Jabba The Hutt]

3 hours ago, SquirminThurman said:

Last season and this off-season I realized I am Gabe Davis' #1 fan. I do not think he will ever be a WR#1 in the NFL. But he is a very dangerous and underappreciated #2. I really look forward to this season with Diggs/ Davis/ Kincaid and Knox. I stick by my assertion Kincaid is going to be the WR3 with Knox still at TE. Kincaid lined up in slot makes a lot of mess for the defense, even before motion. Imagine lining up Nickel to stop him in slot, then he motions to TE 2 and the Bills are now in 12 personnel...

 

I also think the drafting of Shorter is going under the radar. He could emerge as a real beast in the next 2-3 seasons. Think AJ Brown or DK Metcalf ceiling. Any WR who can get open by size, speed, quickness, knowledge will get fed. Shorter has a few of these traits going for him. If he puts in the 'brain work' he could be a real weapon for the rest of JA's career.

Kincaid should be getting #1 targets with Diggs

[Fansince88]

3 minutes ago, Jabba The Hutt said:

Kincaid should be getting #1 targets with Diggs

Lets let him play first.

[Jabba The Hutt]

1 hour ago, Fansince88 said:

Lets let him play first.

I'm just calling it like how it is...

[Spartacus]

14 hours ago, Jabba The Hutt said:

Kincaid should be getting #1 targets with Diggs

what he needs to be getting are Josh's primary reads on a lot of plays

targets will follow

[Jabba The Hutt]

1 minute ago, Spartacus said:

what he needs to be getting are Josh's primary reads on a lot of plays

targets will follow

And catches and TDs will follow....any big time moment Kincaid needs to be thrown to. Guaranteed catch.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

9 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

For your health!

[Ann]

There’s a story here…

 

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

39 minutes ago, Ann said:

There’s a story here…

 

 

 

 

Looks more like a complete lack of a story.  "Whoever's" makes it sound like he doesn't know...so doesn't have a destination yet.

 

Move over Aaron Rogers, there's a new Hamlet in town!

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

There’s a story here…

 

 

 

It sounds like the oft told story of “why isn’t anyone throwing as much money at me as I think I’m still worth?”

[Ann]

31 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

It sounds like the oft told story of “why isn’t anyone throwing as much money at me as I think I’m still worth?”

That is my guess, too.

[Ann]

So, what happens? Can the Bills sign him? Do the Bills want him? Is he worth less than he thought? Will he sign for less than he wanted? 
 

 

[Alaska Darin]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

So, what happens? Can the Bills sign him? Do the Bills want him? Is he worth less than he thought? Will he sign for less than he wanted? 
 

 

I suspect he's waiting to see of any team suffers a major injury in TC (or before).  I don't think there's much chance the BILLS sign him.

[Spartacus]

17 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

I suspect he's waiting to see of any team suffers a major injury in TC (or before).  I don't think there's much chance the BILLS sign him.

unless he wants to take minimum money to be a decoy

anything more will cause Diggs' head to explode when his targets get shared with Hopkins

[Ann]

Rumor? Or ‘duh’?
 

 

𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥: The latest from insider information on Deandre Hopkins free agency If Bills, Chiefs or Browns offered money close to the Titans or Patriots, he would be signed today. He wants a combo of money + a chance to win. Hopkins isn't "thrilled" to have Mac Jones or Tannehill throwing him passes in 2023, but he leans toward the patriots if those remain the only two options.

 

 

 

[Fansince88]

2 hours ago, Ann said:

Rumor? Or ‘duh’?
 

 

𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥: The latest from insider information on Deandre Hopkins free agency If Bills, Chiefs or Browns offered money close to the Titans or Patriots, he would be signed today. He wants a combo of money + a chance to win. Hopkins isn't "thrilled" to have Mac Jones or Tannehill throwing him passes in 2023, but he leans toward the patriots if those remain the only two options.

 

 

 

And my aunt was a man she would be my uncle.....presumably of course. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Fansince88

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

20 hours ago, Ann said:

Rumor? Or ‘duh’?
 

 

𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥: The latest from insider information on Deandre Hopkins free agency If Bills, Chiefs or Browns offered money close to the Titans or Patriots, he would be signed today. He wants a combo of money + a chance to win. Hopkins isn't "thrilled" to have Mac Jones or Tannehill throwing him passes in 2023, but he leans toward the patriots if those remain the only two options.

 

 

 

 

Isn't "thrilled" to play with Mac Jones, but will if he has to.

 

Oh please, please make that happen. 

[IDBillzFan]

20 hours ago, Ann said:

Rumor? Or ‘duh’?
 

 

𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥: The latest from insider information on Deandre Hopkins free agency If Bills, Chiefs or Browns offered money close to the Titans or Patriots, he would be signed today. He wants a combo of money + a chance to win. Hopkins isn't "thrilled" to have Mac Jones or Tannehill throwing him passes in 2023, but he leans toward the patriots if those remain the only two options.

 

 

 

 

Be careful what you wish for, Dhop, as it will surely happen.