KD in CA Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, Ann said: We will see if they are still there Monday for the Miami game: Yikes....Fish would feast on Ian Book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 12:15 PM, Ann said: How many are sick? We've reached a point in all of this that it is now the vaccinated who are the overwhelming major carriers and spreaders of this virus, especially the over 60 crowd https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, Cinga said: We've reached a point in all of this that it is now the vaccinated who are the overwhelming major carriers and spreaders of this virus, especially the over 60 crowd https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext I'm thinking maybe the vaccine isn't particularly effective. At least, according to the definition of "vaccine" that stood for centuries before the CDC changed it this year. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I'm thinking maybe the vaccine isn't particularly effective. At least, according to the definition of "vaccine" that stood for centuries before the CDC changed it this year. Vaccine didn't use to mean something that makes the symptoms of a disease milder in some cases? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/21/2021 at 10:17 PM, Foxx said: A blue tent? With a car exhaust hooked to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I'm thinking maybe the vaccine isn't particularly effective. At least, according to the definition of "vaccine" that stood for centuries before the CDC changed it this year. I think the vaccine (and naturally-acquired immunity) is effectively keeping NYC open and not shut down, despite worse infection numbers than March/April, 2020. At this point, it is individual business decisions whether to stay open or not. And that's progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1474133204932169740 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1474133774795526147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer__League__Hockey Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Vaccine didn't use to mean something that makes the symptoms of a disease milder in some cases? Then we have had 60-80 years of misinformed people, including you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Cinga said: We've reached a point in all of this that it is now the vaccinated who are the overwhelming major carriers and spreaders of this virus, especially the over 60 crowd https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext coincidentally, the rollout of the jab coincided with the explosion of the Delta, just like Omicron is roaring just as the booster shots are booming. seems a jab or booster shot is an invitation to the variant of the month club 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer__League__Hockey Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 It’s almost as if the chicken is the egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 13 hours ago, Spartacus said: coincidentally, the rollout of the jab coincided with the explosion of the Delta, just like Omicron is roaring just as the booster shots are booming. seems a jab or booster shot is an invitation to the variant of the month club Its the gift that keeps on giving all year long Clark! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 For posterity, I am posting this here as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Apparently Cody ford has the 'rona as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said: I'm thinking maybe the vaccine isn't particularly effective. At least, according to the definition of "vaccine" that stood for centuries before the CDC changed it this year. 14 hours ago, Spartacus said: coincidentally, the rollout of the jab coincided with the explosion of the Delta, just like Omicron is roaring just as the booster shots are booming. seems a jab or booster shot is an invitation to the variant of the month club It's actually pretty crappy since the CDC quit tracking who was vaxxed or not when they got sick and if they have started again I can't find. However I have found that the UK Health Dept publishes a report weekly and it is quite damning of the vaccine if you read between the lines. You can find them here:https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports And last week report, published Dec 23 is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043608/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_51.pdf You can of course read through it if you want, but to save time just jump back to page 36, Table 8 and look at those numbers. It looks like the UK has few vaxxed under 18 so the # of them in the Not Vaccinated column is quite high compared to the vaccinated columns. But look at the rest of the age groups. Every one of them you have a lot more vaxxed infected than unvaxxed. The UK gives some lame well, "stands to reason since more are vaxxed" but I'm sorry, these numbers should be disturbing to literally everyone. So I took those numbers and added them to an Excel so I could add a couple rows and a column. The column totals the different vax levels, the rows shows totals of each column, the other shows totals excluding the under 18 group. As you know I can't attach the sheet but here is the image. Totals show almost twice as many vaxxed infected as unvaxxed, but look when I take out the under 18 and it is now almost 6 fold more vaxxed infected. 19 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Vaccine didn't use to mean something that makes the symptoms of a disease milder in some cases? Nope, as Beer alludes to below the CDC just changes the definition of vaccine a couple weeks ago from "makes you immune" to something like "helps to lessen symptoms"... Edited December 24, 2021 by Cinga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cinga said: It's actually pretty crappy since the CDC quit tracking who was vaxxed or not when they got sick and if they have started again I can't find. However I have found that the UK Health Dept publishes a report weekly and it is quite damning of the vaccine if you read between the lines. You can find them here:https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports And last week report, published Dec 23 is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043608/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_51.pdf You can of course read through it if you want, but to save time just jump back to page 36, Table 8 and look at those numbers. It looks like the UK has few vaxxed under 18 so the # of them in the Not Vaccinated column is quite high compared to the vaccinated columns. But look at the rest of the age groups. Every one of them you have a lot more vaxxed infected than unvaxxed. The UK gives some lame well, "stands to reason since more are vaxxed" but I'm sorry, these numbers should be disturbing to literally everyone. So I took those numbers and added them to an Excel so I could add a couple rows and a column. The column totals the different vax levels, the rows, on shows totals of each column, the other shows totals excluding the under 18 group. As you know I can't attach the sheet but here is the image. Totals show almost twice as many vaxxed infected as unvaxxed, but look when I take out the under 18 and it is now almost 6 fold more vaxxed infected. Nope, as Beer alludes to below the CDC just changes the definition of vaccine a couple weeks ago from "makes you immune" to something like "helps to lessen symptoms"... I thought the sarcasm was obvious but it doesn't look like thats a thing here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 16 hours ago, Beer__League__Hockey said: Then we have had 60-80 years of misinformed people, including you. That or you couldn't identify sarcasm to save your own life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: I thought the sarcasm was obvious but it doesn't look like thats a thing here. I guess many of us are just too seriously pissed off by this whole thing. Especially now that it's beginning to look really bad for us the next couple weeks at least and all due to some arbitrary decision by the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 http:// https://mobile.twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1474475067178463238 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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