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[Ann]

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[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 hours ago, Ann said:

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This administration's major policy goal is keeping Greta Thunberg quiet.

[devnull]

40 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

This administration's major policy goal is keeping Greta Thunberg quiet.

 

While I do agree with that policy goal, I do not endorse their methods

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

This administration's major policy goal is keeping Greta Thunberg quiet.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Cinga]

Well now what do we do?

 

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Over the last 40 years, North American cars and power plants have gotten cleaner. They spewed far less pollution into the atmosphere, a difference visible by satellites. But a new paper from NOAA published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances suggests that the cleaner air may have had an unintended effect — more hurricanes

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Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/environment/article261344717.html#storylink=cpy

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

Lawmakers pressure DOD to ignore state law.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/05/12/lawmakers-press-dod-to-provide-troops-access-to-abortion-if-roe-v-wade-is-overturned/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dfn-ebb

[Foxx]

On 5/12/2022 at 8:07 PM, Cinga said:

Well now what do we do?

 

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Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/environment/article261344717.html#storylink=cpy

A butterfly flaps its wings...

[B-Man]

 

 

 He’s studied mental illness for 50 years. Here are all the things we’re doing wrong

 

 We have to be more willing to disrupt current animal habitats when building wind or hydroelectric power. That means, to put it bluntly, that we have to be more willing to kill animals.

 

 The White House’s Specious Gender Manifesto. The White House is claiming that the debate about childhood gender medicine is settled—even as numerous international experts are coming forward to say it‘s not

 

 As Parents Resisted Transgender Push, Teacher Suggested Sending in Child Services.

 

 Wisconsin Middle Schoolers Charged With Sexual Harassment For Failing To Use Preferred Pronouns

 

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos Invested in Lab-Produced Breast Milk to Prevent Effects of ‘Climate Change’

 

 The College Kids Are Not OK

 

 Harvard Progressives Covering Up For Their Systemic Racist Friends

 

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Health Journalist Revealed the Real Purpose of Masks in 2018: Fear

 

 White House Admits It Lied About Vaccines

 

 BLACKROCK BACKS OFF

 

 KAMALA WORD SALAD: “We Will Work Together, and Continue to Work Together… and to Work Together as We Continue to Work… To Work Together… We Will Work on This Together”

 

 

[Koko]

22 minutes ago, B-Man said:

He’s studied mental illness for 50 years. Here are all the things we’re doing wrong

 

Psychopharmacology is pretty scary stuff. They don't know how or why most drugs work, just that they do. Especially anti-psychotics.

 

He's not wrong about needing a more holistic approach to mental illness. Dumping mentally ill people on the criminal justice system doesn't work.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

7 minutes ago, Koko said:

 

Psychopharmacology is pretty scary stuff. They don't know how or why most drugs work, just that they do. Especially anti-psychotics.

 

I remember that when I was on depakote.  "Mechanism of action: we don't know."  

 

But they do generally work.  And in a lot of cases, uncertainty is less about the drugs than it is about the brain itself.

[IDBillzFan]

41 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 KAMALA WORD SALAD: “We Will Work Together, and Continue to Work Together… and to Work Together as We Continue to Work… To Work Together… We Will Work on This Together”

 

"So, Lord Helmet, at last we meet again for the first time for the last time!"

[Spartacus]

20 hours ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

I remember that when I was on depakote.  "Mechanism of action: we don't know."  

 

But they do generally work.  And in a lot of cases, uncertainty is less about the drugs than it is about the brain itself.

we don't know how it works, but it does.

 

 

gee- sounds like Eastern medicine and holistic healing

but Big Pharma can't make money since no drugs involved- so trashed by the Western medical community

[IDBillzFan]

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

No votes to be had in Waukesha.

[Billsfan1959]

On 5/16/2022 at 10:31 AM, Koko said:

 

Psychopharmacology is pretty scary stuff. They don't know how or why most drugs work, just that they do. Especially anti-psychotics.

 

He's not wrong about needing a more holistic approach to mental illness. Dumping mentally ill people on the criminal justice system doesn't work.

 

The research indicates that those with a serious mental illness (e.g., major depressive disorder, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia) are, in general, slightly more likely to be violent than the general population. However, that risk increases greatly with the addition of other variables, primarily (1) the failure to take medications as prescribed and/or (2) and co-occurring substance use. Then, the risk for violence (against both self and others) increases dramatically. Unfortunately, many seem to think it is somehow more compassionate, or humane, to allow the mentally ill, particularly the most vulnerable (those without money or social support networks) to live in circumstances where one or both of those conditions are an almost certainty.

 

The idea that community health centers and treatment programs will ever be effective for those mentally ill individuals who need it most is, at best, naive. At worst, it is a willingness to place lives at risk (both the mentally ill and people in the community) and shift the burden of dealing with the mentally ill to the police and the criminal justice system.

 

We do need a holistic approach to mental illness (from both research and treatment perspectives), and, at its core, the approach should begin with ensuring the safety of both the mentall ill and those with whom they may interact.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1959 said:

 

The research indicates that those with a serious mental illness (e.g., major depressive disorder, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia) are, in general, slightly more likely to be violent than the general population. However, that risk increases greatly with the addition of other variables, primarily (1) the failure to take medications as prescribed and/or (2) and co-occurring substance use. Then, the risk for violence (against both self and others) increases dramatically. Unfortunately, many seem to think it is somehow more compassionate, or humane, to allow the mentally ill, particularly the most vulnerable (those without money or social support networks) to live in circumstances where one or both of those conditions are an almost certainty.

 

The idea that community health centers and treatment programs will ever be effective for those mentally ill individuals who need it most is, at best, naive. At worst, it is a willingness to place lives at risk (both the mentally ill and people in the community) and shift the burden of dealing with the mentally ill to the police and the criminal justice system.

 

We do need a holistic approach to mental illness (from both research and treatment perspectives), and, at its core, the approach should begin with ensuring the safety of both the mentall ill and those with whom they may interact.

 

The psychiatric community generally does take a holistic approach to mental illness.

 

The problem is that the psychiatric community is usually not involved until there's a genuine crisis.  The insurance industry, in the interest of "managed care," prefers (all but forces) people to get mental health treatment from their primary care providers, who are usually incapable or unwilling (or both) to provide the required holistic care.  

 

It's the reason SSRIs carry a suicide warning: because they were so often prescribed by primary care physicians who didn't (couldn't, wouldn't, weren't permitted to) provide necessary monitoring and case management after prescribing.

[Ann]

Missed this...
 

 

[Cinga]

2 hours ago, Billsfan1959 said:

 

The research indicates that those with a serious mental illness (e.g., major depressive disorder, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia) are, in general, slightly more likely to be violent than the general population. However, that risk increases greatly with the addition of other variables, primarily (1) the failure to take medications as prescribed and/or (2) and co-occurring substance use. Then, the risk for violence (against both self and others) increases dramatically. Unfortunately, many seem to think it is somehow more compassionate, or humane, to allow the mentally ill, particularly the most vulnerable (those without money or social support networks) to live in circumstances where one or both of those conditions are an almost certainty.

 

The idea that community health centers and treatment programs will ever be effective for those mentally ill individuals who need it most is, at best, naive. At worst, it is a willingness to place lives at risk (both the mentally ill and people in the community) and shift the burden of dealing with the mentally ill to the police and the criminal justice system.

 

We do need a holistic approach to mental illness (from both research and treatment perspectives), and, at its core, the approach should begin with ensuring the safety of both the mentall ill and those with whom they may interact.

 

So if I'm reading that right, once someone is on meds for an issue, they better stay on them or there is a good chance of extreme violence from them? Sort of like we see in most of these shoot 'em up incidents?

 

40 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

The psychiatric community generally does take a holistic approach to mental illness.

 

The problem is that the psychiatric community is usually not involved until there's a genuine crisis.  The insurance industry, in the interest of "managed care," prefers (all but forces) people to get mental health treatment from their primary care providers, who are usually incapable or unwilling (or both) to provide the required holistic care.  

 

It's the reason SSRIs carry a suicide warning: because they were so often prescribed by primary care physicians who didn't (couldn't, wouldn't, weren't permitted to) provide necessary monitoring and case management after prescribing.

 

And that is just flat out stupid. When I lost my wife our insurance and the company HR recommended seeing a psychological counselor to help with grief and told me insurance covered 3 visits a year.  I never used it since I'm arguably already a basket case sure to drive THEM nuts, but all I could think of was WTF? What about real cases that needed this kind of treatment yet only get 3 whole visits a year?

[Ann]

For the average American who has no idea that this trial is going on (total media blackout) here is a thread. This is in DC and the jury members, judge, DOJ oversite, etc all have ties to Sussmann.