Nouseforaname Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devnull Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Nouseforaname said: What people think the French are like What the French are really like 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, devnull said: What people think the French are like What the French are really like: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 The Dark Knight has arrived. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: The Dark Knight has arrived. The hero they need but not the hero they deserve. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Ann said: He was shot while he was driving away, obviously refusing to collaborate. Does that warrant him getting shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: He was shot while he was driving away, obviously refusing to collaborate. Does that warrant him getting shot? Did the police think they were in danger? When I saw the video, I thought he appeared to try and hit the cops with the vehicle. Should they have left him flee? Was he a danger to the general public if he was unwilling to obey police officers with guns drawn? If he was willing to cause harm to police offers by hitting them with a vehicle (either intentionally or not) what would he have done to the general public? Is this person/situation the impetus that is worth burning France down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Clavin Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ann said: Did the police think they were in danger? When I saw the video, I thought he appeared to try and hit the cops with the vehicle. Should they have left him flee? Was he a danger to the general public if he was unwilling to obey police officers with guns drawn? If he was willing to cause harm to police offers by hitting them with a vehicle (either intentionally or not) what would he have done to the general public? Is this person/situation the impetus that is worth burning France down? It is for the Algerian community. Like I said...happens every ten years or so. They just need an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ann said: Did the police think they were in danger? When I saw the video, I thought he appeared to try and hit the cops with the vehicle. Should they have left him flee? Was he a danger to the general public if he was unwilling to obey police officers with guns drawn? If he was willing to cause harm to police offers by hitting them with a vehicle (either intentionally or not) what would he have done to the general public? Is this person/situation the impetus that is worth burning France down? Did you read the article ? He is known to police for having a fake car registration and selling weed. Were the police actually in danger? They fired after he drove away. Is he a martyr? No, but let’s not pretend that the police are innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Did you read the article ? He is known to police for having a fake car registration and selling weed. Were the police actually in danger? They fired after he drove away. Is he a martyr? No, but let’s not pretend that the police are innocent. Did you watch the video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ann said: Did you watch the video? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Yes. So police had guns drawn on him, barking out orders. He takes off, attempting to hit them. What should the police have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ann said: So police had guns drawn on him, barking out orders. He takes off, attempting to hit them. What should the police have done? He didn’t attempt to hit them he attempted to flee . What are the rules of engagement in France with respect to using a firearm ? Edited July 3, 2023 by Nouseforaname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: He didn’t attempt to hit them he attempted to flee . What are the rules of engagement in France with respect to using a firearm ? In that video, I saw him try and hit the police and then attempt to flee. So, what are the rules of engagement in France with respect to police having drawn weapons on a suspect, said suspect disobeys their orders, and said suspect attempts to harm them and then flee the scene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Not sure if its 100% accurate, but: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/french-police-use-of-force-powers-road-traffic-stops-2023-06-28/ From the link: Since 2017, French law has allowed police to use their firearms in five different scenarios: - When their life or physical safety, or the life of another individual, is put at risk; - When a place or people under their protection come under attack; - When they are unable to prevent someone likely to threaten their life or physical safety, or other people's, from fleeing; - When they are unable to stop a vehicle whose driver has ignored an order to stop and whose occupants are likely to pose a risk to their life or physical safety, or to other people's; - If there is reason to believe it will prevent murder or attempted murder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: Not sure if its 100% accurate, but: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/french-police-use-of-force-powers-road-traffic-stops-2023-06-28/ From the link: Since 2017, French law has allowed police to use their firearms in five different scenarios: - When their life or physical safety, or the life of another individual, is put at risk; - When a place or people under their protection come under attack; - When they are unable to prevent someone likely to threaten their life or physical safety, or other people's, from fleeing; - When they are unable to stop a vehicle whose driver has ignored an order to stop and whose occupants are likely to pose a risk to their life or physical safety, or to other people's; - If there is reason to believe it will prevent murder or attempted murder. If this is accurate, those police met criteria 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. But hey, let's riot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ann said: In that video, I saw him try and hit the police and then attempt to flee. So, what are the rules of engagement in France with respect to police having drawn weapons on a suspect, said suspect disobeys their orders, and said suspect attempts to harm them and then flee the scene? Attempt to hit… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nouseforaname Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ann said: If this is accurate, those police met criteria 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. But hey, let's riot! Prevent murder or attempted murder ? 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nouseforaname said: Prevent murder or attempted murder ? 😂😂😂 They had to meet one criteria. Not sure why you find this funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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