Quarterback Carousel 2022 (new year starts on pg. 53)

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

53 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Mac Jones, Tua Tagovailoa and Zack Wilson outside of the top ten;

 

Even funnier: Pats, Fins, and Jets fans arguing they should be in the top 10.

[Taro T]

4 hours ago, Ann said:

AFC is gonna be fun to watch:

Y'all agree or disagree??

 

He's expecting Pickett to beat out Trubisky?

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

He's expecting Pickett to beat out Trubisky?

 

 

 

According to the OBF DAB POMA BEMCQBSP(A) metrics, Trubisky has a 7% chance of being the starter over Pickett.

 

And the Bose-Einstein Monte Carlo Quarterback Starting Percentage (Adjusted) metric is far more accurate than "according to Cody Benjamin."  I mean...who you going to believe, Einstein, or some schmuck named "Cody Benjamin?"

[Taro T]

21 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Monkey said:

 

According to the OBF DAB POMA BEMCQBSP(A) metrics, Trubisky has a 7% chance of being the starter over Pickett.

 

And the Bose-Einstein Monte Carlo Quarterback Starting Percentage (Adjusted) metric is far more accurate than "according to Cody Benjamin."  I mean...who you going to believe, Einstein, or some schmuck named "Cody Benjamin?"

 

You sure you didn't drop a 0 on the %age chance of Mitch starting?  Expecting it'd be closer to 70%.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

4 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

You sure you didn't drop a 0 on the %age chance of Mitch starting?  Expecting it'd be closer to 70%.

 

Are you questioning Einstein????

[4merper4mer]

3 hours ago, Foxx said:

Not sure how they can rank DW at this point.

 

Mac Jones, Tua Tagovailoa and Zack Wilson outside of the top ten;

I think at EOY Wilson will easily be higher than Tua and probably be higher than Mac.

[Ann]

Well   

[Alaska Darin]

2 minutes ago, Ann said:

Well   

Curious what he says once they no longer just practicing in their underwear and into some actual live competition.

[Fansince88]

8 hours ago, Ann said:

Well   

More accurate at handing off?

[Ann]

Couple of surprises here:


 

The NFL's best quarterbacks against every type of coverage
 

• Cover-0: Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

There were many reasons for Allen’s impressive season in 2021, when he completed 457 of 708 passes for 5,044 yards, 45 touchdowns, and 15 interceptions, adding 897 rushing yards and six touchdowns on the ground. One of those reasons was Allen’s effectiveness against Cover-0 — man coverage across the board with no deep safeties. Against Cover-0 in 2021, Allen completed 10 of 16 passes for 114 yards, 89 air yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, a passer rating of 123.4, and an Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt of 13.4.

One reason Allen is so good at exploiting aggressive this kind of man coverage? His ability to stick throws into tight windows with anticipation. This 19-yard touchdown pass to Gabriel Davis in the Bills’ wild-card win over the Patriots is proof of concept.
 

• Cover-1: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
• Cover-2: Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams
• 2-Man: Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos
• Cover-3: Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals

 

• Cover-4: Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

Mr. Allen is back on the list, and this time it’s against Cover-4 or “Quarters” coverage. This is another coverage concept that is gaining steam at all levels of football, As our good friend Matt Bowen of ESPN explained for Bleacher Report in 2014, Cover-4 is “a four-deep, three-under zone defense that uses man-to-man principles while creating opportunities for both the free and strong safety to double (or “bracket”) the No. 1 wide receivers.”

When facing Cover-4 in 2021, Allen completed 62 of 90 passes for 699 yards, 472 air yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions, a passer rating of 97.4, and an ANY/A of 7.8. Justin Herbert was the most explosive quarterback against Cover-4 in 2021, throwing seven touchdowns against it, but he also threw four interceptions.

On this 15-yard Allen touchdown pass to Stefon Diggs against the Titans in Week 6, safety Amani Hooker drops down to take care of the run fit, but the ball’s not going to running back Devin Singletary. That leaves cornerback Jackrabbit Jenkins one-on-one with Diggs on the slant, and that’s bad math, no matter who you are. This was easy pickings for Allen in Brian Daboll’s fully-formed offense — now run by Ken Dorsey.

 

• Cover-6: Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• Goal-line: Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins
• Red-2: Davis Mills, Houston Texans

[Taro T]

4 hours ago, Ann said:

Couple of surprises here:


 

The NFL's best quarterbacks against every type of coverage
 

• Cover-0: Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

There were many reasons for Allen’s impressive season in 2021, when he completed 457 of 708 passes for 5,044 yards, 45 touchdowns, and 15 interceptions, adding 897 rushing yards and six touchdowns on the ground. One of those reasons was Allen’s effectiveness against Cover-0 — man coverage across the board with no deep safeties. Against Cover-0 in 2021, Allen completed 10 of 16 passes for 114 yards, 89 air yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, a passer rating of 123.4, and an Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt of 13.4.

One reason Allen is so good at exploiting aggressive this kind of man coverage? His ability to stick throws into tight windows with anticipation. This 19-yard touchdown pass to Gabriel Davis in the Bills’ wild-card win over the Patriots is proof of concept.
 

• Cover-1: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
• Cover-2: Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams
• 2-Man: Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos
• Cover-3: Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals

 

• Cover-4: Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

Mr. Allen is back on the list, and this time it’s against Cover-4 or “Quarters” coverage. This is another coverage concept that is gaining steam at all levels of football, As our good friend Matt Bowen of ESPN explained for Bleacher Report in 2014, Cover-4 is “a four-deep, three-under zone defense that uses man-to-man principles while creating opportunities for both the free and strong safety to double (or “bracket”) the No. 1 wide receivers.”

When facing Cover-4 in 2021, Allen completed 62 of 90 passes for 699 yards, 472 air yards, four touchdowns, two interceptions, a passer rating of 97.4, and an ANY/A of 7.8. Justin Herbert was the most explosive quarterback against Cover-4 in 2021, throwing seven touchdowns against it, but he also threw four interceptions.

On this 15-yard Allen touchdown pass to Stefon Diggs against the Titans in Week 6, safety Amani Hooker drops down to take care of the run fit, but the ball’s not going to running back Devin Singletary. That leaves cornerback Jackrabbit Jenkins one-on-one with Diggs on the slant, and that’s bad math, no matter who you are. This was easy pickings for Allen in Brian Daboll’s fully-formed offense — now run by Ken Dorsey.

 

• Cover-6: Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
• Goal-line: Tua Tagovailoa, Miami Dolphins
• Red-2: Davis Mills, Houston Texans

 

So, when the other team is expecting run & the quarterback can only throw it about 12 yards downfield tops, Tua is your man. That's friggin' awesome and it works right into his wheelhouse because that seems to be ALL he can throw.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

 

• Red-2: Davis Mills, Houston Texans

 

Quote

In certain goal-line situations, defenses will play “Red-2” coverage, in which a five-across look is presented to the quarterback. In Red-2, the cornerbacks squat and cover instead of playing press, the safeties run reads in which they drop down for any pass in their areas, the inside linebacker will play to the passing strength, and the seam/hook defenders read the quarterback and give the safeties support underneath. 

 

Although what makes it work is John Malkovich faking his own death.

[Uncle Joe]

18 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

So, when the other team is expecting run & the quarterback can only throw it about 12 yards downfield tops, Tua is your man. That's friggin' awesome and it works right into his wheelhouse because that seems to be ALL he can throw.

"Anything has sufficient range if you put it right next to the target." CTM

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

2 hours ago, Uncle Joe said:

"Anything has sufficient range if you put it right next to the target." CTM

 

Even Tua...if the target is the ground.

[Ann]

Chris Simms did a QB ranking and he has Josh Allen as #1.  I agree. 😛  

 

His list:

1. Josh Allen (BUF)
2. Patrick Mahomes (KC)
3. Justin Herbert (LA)
4. Joe Burrow (CIN)
5. Aaron Rodgers (GB)
6. Matthew Stafford (LAR)
7. Russell Wilson (DEN)
8. Tom Brady (TB)
9. Dak Prescott (DAL)
10. Lamar Jackson (BAL)
11. Derek Carr (LV)
12. Kyler Murray (AZ)
13. Deshaun Watson (CLE)
14. Matt Ryan (IND)
15. Ryan Tannehill (TEN)
16. Kirk Cousins (MIN)
17. Baker Mayfield (CLE)
18. Mac Jones (NE)
19. Carson Wentz (WAS)
20. Jimmy Garoppolo (SF)
21. Daniel Jones (NYG)
22. Zach Wilson (NYJ)
23. Justin Fields (CHI)
24. Trevor Lawrence (JAX)
25. Jalen Hurts (PHI)
26. Jameis Winston (NO)
27. Mitchell Trubisky (PIT)
28. Marcus Mariota (ATL)
29. Tua Tagovailoa (MIA)
30. Jared Goff (DET)
31. Trey Lance (SF)
32. Sam Darnold (CAR)
33. Geno Smith (SEA)
34. Tyler Huntley (BAL)
35. Davis Mills (HOU)
36. Tyrod Taylor (NYG)
37. Gardner Minshew (PHI)
38. Teddy Bridgewater (MIA)
39. Kenny Pickett (PIT)
40. Drew Lock (SEA)

 

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

Really? Trading him before the suspension hearing Tuesday would be crazy. I know he's worth a lot less if you must unload him, but if Watson gets suspended for the year, which of the 47 QBs on the Browns would be a better choice to start?

[Ann]

Will the drama ever end?
 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

Will the drama ever end?
 

 

 

"Leaving home, with Baker Mayfield"

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

"Leaving home, with Baker Mayfield"

 

Seriously, I would pay to watch a Progressive commercial of him packing his shit into a Mayflower moving truck, with the tag "We also offer moving insurance."  (Which they do offer.)

[Spartacus]

18 hours ago, Ann said:

Really? Trading him before the suspension hearing Tuesday would be crazy. I know he's worth a lot less if you must unload him, but if Watson gets suspended for the year, which of the 47 QBs on the Browns would be a better choice to start?

 

18 hours ago, Ann said:

Really? Trading him before the suspension hearing Tuesday would be crazy. I know he's worth a lot less if you must unload him, but if Watson gets suspended for the year, which of the 47 QBs on the Browns would be a better choice to start?

 

maybe talk of 1 year suspension is just overhyped talk to give the NFL cover when Robinson delays any suspension until the cases are finalized, in 2023

 

when the WSJ is breaking the story ahead of any NFL insider, you wonder why

 

maybe Cleveland knows this, because the NFL told them the plan at the time of the trade