COVID-19 Viruses and Vaccines

[Spartacus]

sounds like the kind of follow up data Big Pharma should be collecting under its EUA.

could be why the original jab has been cancelled and banned

 

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/the-covid-unvaccinated-are-the-control-group-heres-how-they-fared_4745779.html?utm_source=healthnoe&src_src=healthnoe&utm_campaign=health-2023-05-01&src_cmp=health-2023-05-01&utm_medium=email&est=qosAR%2FZX0AD%2BJCboK7D0ik%2FaYDQ7HgjQJGDXhNhn523lfyYqGC8mDuieULUwQZY%3D

 

WHAT IS THE CONTROL GROUP COOPERATIVE?

The Control Group Cooperative was founded in July 2021 to defend people’s inalienable rights to freedom of choice and bodily integrity. Actually, one of the core principles in public health is the respect of autonomy. The group is particularly concerned with the marginalization and stigmatization of COVID-19 unvaccinated communities around the world. The stakeholders of the cooperative believe that they are making a positive contribution to society by collecting health data from both the SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated and the unvaccinated to facilitate a truly comparative analysis.

 

Their rationale is that there is no existing official control group designated by the governments or health authorities. However, since all the existing COVID-19 vaccines are experimental, and a true scientific experiment (i.e. a controlled experiment) requires at least one group (i.e. the control group) that doesn’t receive the experimental treatment, then the COVID-19 vaccine treatments must have a control group as well in order to properly evaluate their long-term efficacy and safety.

 

As of now, over 305,000 participants who have voluntarily elected to not be inoculated with COVID-19 vaccines, from over 175 countries have signed up to become part of the control group.

 

PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH STATUS OF THE UNVACCINATED COHORT

Given that society had found no way to stop the spread of the Omicron variant, many were infected during this time period—this included many asymptomatic infections. Therefore, our main concern is with the respondents of the cohort who were seriously ill and/or hospitalized.

 

Fortunately, in the vast majority of the cases, the patients’ symptoms were mild and moderate. The rate of severe illness appeared to be very low (around 2 percent of all respondents). Only 74 individuals among the 5,196 (1.4 percent) confirmed or suspected infected respondents reported that they were hospitalized. 

 

Nevertheless, the data here still indicates that this group of unvaccinated people were not more prone to the infection by Omicron, even though they were not protected by the vaccines. Otherwise, the percentage of infection and hospitalization rates among this group of people would be much higher.

 

Therefore, this is a very important piece of data, as well as the core observation in this study.

 

SELF-ADMINISTRATION OF VITAMINS AND MEDICINES

Although the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and health authorities in some other countries haven’t approved the use of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, some respondents believed that there were significant volume of medical study data to suggest that these drugs were effective at treating COVID-19 disease, and some clinicians said that from their own experience that they had helped many of their patients with these drugs. As a result, some did use these drugs to combat their COVID-19 infection. Also, most people took vitamins, as they can be very helpful in boosting the immune system. So it is clear that they had been taking an active approach to prevention and treatment, not simply ignoring the threats of COVID

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

23 hours ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

I  joke about the blind acceptance of "natural remedies" that are 1) manufactured, and 2) overpriced and marketed to exploit its adherents the same way pharmaceuticals do.  

 

You won't see me argue against naturopathy, there's too many examples of natural remedies working (e.g. cinchona, willow bark - examples I often throw in the face of dismissives).  But you're not consuming dandelion root - you're overpaying for a manufactured product marketed to you as containing the claimed amount of an extract of dandelion root alongside the large amount of God-knows what else.

 

Recently had an issue with pain and redness in my right foot. Went to foot doc. Prescribed low-dose Viagara to increase circulation, and it worked. Except he couldn't tell me WHY it was happening, so I was supposed to take Viagara every day to control the problem. I stopped taking it because that was stupid, and sure enough the foot flared up again.

 

Went to my wife's naturopath chiro who gave me what he referred to as fish oil without the middle man. Omega 3 oils or some such algae and plant-sourced essential fatty acids. Basically, he said, this is good for you to take every day even if your foot didn't have an issue, and a couple of months later, no issue with the foot...and no Viagara.

 

I'm really sticking it to Big Pharma.

[Spartacus]

27 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Recently had an issue with pain and redness in my right foot. Went to foot doc. Prescribed low-dose Viagara to increase circulation, and it worked. Except he couldn't tell me WHY it was happening, so I was supposed to take Viagara every day to control the problem. I stopped taking it because that was stupid, and sure enough the foot flared up again.

 

Went to my wife's naturopath chiro who gave me what he referred to as fish oil without the middle man. Omega 3 oils or some such algae and plant-sourced essential fatty acids. Basically, he said, this is good for you to take every day even if your foot didn't have an issue, and a couple of months later, no issue with the foot...and no Viagara.

 

I'm really sticking it to Big Pharma.

Modern medicine is all about masking the symptoms of every ailment.

 

They don't care what the cause is and really don't want to eliminate the cause anyway, because that would stop the drug annuity program they want you on.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

45 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Recently had an issue with pain and redness in my right foot. Went to foot doc. Prescribed low-dose Viagara to increase circulation, and it worked. Except he couldn't tell me WHY it was happening, so I was supposed to take Viagara every day to control the problem. I stopped taking it because that was stupid, and sure enough the foot flared up again.

 

Went to my wife's naturopath chiro who gave me what he referred to as fish oil without the middle man. Omega 3 oils or some such algae and plant-sourced essential fatty acids. Basically, he said, this is good for you to take every day even if your foot didn't have an issue, and a couple of months later, no issue with the foot...and no Viagara.

 

I'm really sticking it to Big Pharma.

 

Well, it increases blood flow in general, so if you had constricted blood flow in your foot, I'd expect it to help.  

 

My biggest problem with American medicine isn't even so much the proliferation of drug prescriptions in the absence of actual diagnosis, but the proliferation of "I don't know why this would work" drug prescriptions that aren't further monitored by physicians.  There's a lot of that.

 

And I say "That's stupid, I'm not taking that" a lot.  Ever since a doctor nearly killed me with a careless prescription...me being me, I don't take a damned thing that I haven't thoroughly researched myself.

[Ann]

1 hour ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

And I say "That's stupid, I'm not taking that" a lot.  Ever since a doctor nearly killed me with a careless prescription...me being me, I don't take a damned thing that I haven't thoroughly researched myself.

I think many (most) people who have had a serious health scare research the heck out of anything the doctor wants to prescribe. 

[Spartacus]

On 5/1/2023 at 2:28 PM, Ann said:

I think many (most) people who have had a serious health scare research the heck out of anything the doctor wants to prescribe. 

so why not with the covid jab?

plenty of available info had to be outright ignored to believe the jab was safe and effective

[Spartacus]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/how-the-unvaccinated-got-it-right_5238208.html?utm_source=healthnoe&src_src=healthnoe&utm_campaign=health-2023-05-04&src_cmp=health-2023-05-04&utm_medium=email&est=pORWtEm%2BvsBYPWmIsiSzScSp1ZpUbxP3K0QDv8SY3IRepiL6bNTOb%2BsPcK7Nyag%3D

 

Scott Adams is the creator of the famous cartoon strip, Dilbert.

Recently, however, he posted a video . . . in which he declared, “The unvaccinated were the winners,” and, to his great credit, “I want to find out how so many of [my viewers] got the right answer about the ‘vaccine’ and I didn’t.”

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What follows is a personal response to Scott, which explains how consideration of the information that was available at the time led one person—me—to decline the “vaccine.” ed

 

1. Some people have said that the “vaccine” was created in a hurry.  The much more important point was that the “vaccine” was rolled out without long-term testing.

 

Therefore one of two conditions applied. Either no claim could be made with confidence about the long-term safety of the “vaccine” or there was some amazing scientific argument for a once-in-a-lifetime theoretical certainty concerning the long-term safety of this “vaccine.” The latter would be so extraordinary that it might (for all I know) even be a first in the history of medicine. If that were the case, it would have been all that was being talked about by the scientists; it was not.

 

2. Data that did not support COVID policies were actively and massively suppressed.

 

7. The PCR [polymerase chain reaction] test was held up as the “gold standard” diagnostic test for COVID. A moment’s reading about how the PCR test works indicates that it is no such thing. Its use for diagnostic purposes is more of an art than a science, to put it kindly.

Kary Mullis, who in 1993 won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for inventing the PCR technique risked his career to say as much when people tried to use it as a diagnostic test for HIV to justify a mass program of pushing experimental anti-retroviral drugs on early AIDS patients, which ultimately killed tens of thousands of people. This raises the question, “How do the people who are generating the data that we saw on the news every night and were being used to justify the mass “vaccination” policy handle the uncertainty around PCR-brd diagnoses?”

If you don’t have a satisfactory answer to this question, your bar for taking the risk of “vaccination” should once again go up. (On a personal note, to get the answer before making my decision about whether to undergo “vaccination,” I sent exactly this question, via a friend, to an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins.

That epidemiologist, who was personally involved in generating the up-to-date data on the spread of pandemic globally, replied merely that s/he works with the data s/he’s given and does not question its accuracy or means of generation. In other words, the pandemic response was largely brd on data generated by processes that were not understood or even questioned by the generators of that data.)

 

 

10. As time went on, it became very clear that some of the informational claims that had been made to convince people to get “vaccinated,” especially by politicians and media commentators, were false.

 

To make more strongly the point about prior claims and policies’ being contradicted by subsequent findings but not, as a result, being reversed, the same Dr. Walensky, head of the CDC, said, “the overwhelming number of deaths—over 75 percent—occurred in people that had at least four comorbidities. So really these were people who were unwell to begin with.”

 

That statement so completely undermined the entire justification for the policies of mass-“vaccination” and lockdowns that any intellectually honest person who supported them would at that point have to reassess their position. Whereas the average Joe might well have missed that piece of information from the CDC, it was the government’s own information so the presidential Joe (and his agents) certainly could not have missed it.

 

 

 

11. What was the new science that explained why, for the first time in history, a “vaccine” would be more effective than natural exposure and consequent immunity? Why the urgency to get a person who has had COVID and now has some immunity to get “vaccinated” after the fact?

 

 

 

[Jabba The Hutt]

On 5/1/2023 at 11:52 AM, IDBillzFan said:

 

Recently had an issue with pain and redness in my right foot. Went to foot doc. Prescribed low-dose Viagara to increase circulation, and it worked. Except he couldn't tell me WHY it was happening, so I was supposed to take Viagara every day to control the problem. I stopped taking it because that was stupid, and sure enough the foot flared up again.

 

Went to my wife's naturopath chiro who gave me what he referred to as fish oil without the middle man. Omega 3 oils or some such algae and plant-sourced essential fatty acids. Basically, he said, this is good for you to take every day even if your foot didn't have an issue, and a couple of months later, no issue with the foot...and no Viagara.

 

I'm really sticking it to Big Pharma.

But think of how good you could stick it to them WITH Viagara

[Jabba The Hutt]

On 4/30/2023 at 4:49 PM, Fansince88 said:

I would have called you a fool in the past. That said, I changed my mindset from taking vitamins and mineral and herbals to eating them. Dandelion season is here and my yard is full of them! Also shortly is Wild Leek season and we have about 300 acres to harvest them and pickle them. 

Nearly no vitamin C on the market is actually Vitamin C for example. Nothing in it is Vitamin C. It is Ascorbic Acid. Made mostly from Petroleum. Im at the YOU CANT TRUST ANYONE  point of my life. 

Vitamin C? Three highest natural fruit sources off the top of my head...Camu Camu (Myrciaria dubia which is a Jaboticaba relative), Acerola Cherry(Malpighia emarginata) and Amla aka Indian Gooseberry (Phyllanthus emblica)... You're welcome!

 

Since we moved back to NY and it's a little hard to grow those now we have a powdered Camu Camu/Acerola blend we add to our fresh orange juice and smoothies. Not sure if we will still ship Amla but we were the only source of fresh in the whole US. You can get that powdered as well.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Jabba The Hutt

[Fansince88]

9 hours ago, Jabba The Hutt said:

Vitamin C? Three highest natural fruit sources off the top of my head...Camu Camu (Myrciaria dubia which is a Jaboticaba relative), Acerola Cherry(Malpighia emarginata) and Amla aka Indian Gooseberry (Phyllanthus emblica)... You're welcome!

 

Since we moved back to NY and it's a little hard to grow those now we have a powdered Camu Camu/Acerola blend we add to our fresh orange juice and smoothies. Not sure if we will still ship Amla but we were the only source of fresh in the whole US. You can get that powdered as well.

Im trying to lower the sugar intake for now to lower inflamation so for me it is red bell peppers and the like for my C.  Where in NY and why?. Also why???

[Jabba The Hutt]

23 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

Im trying to lower the sugar intake for now to lower inflamation so for me it is red bell peppers and the like for my C.  Where in NY and why?. Also why???

These are pretty low in sugar fruits, amla is more of a tart fruit as is acerola, hell all 3 taste more like a vitamin C tablet than a fruit. 

Also as a bonus Camu Camu and Amla are thought to be strongly anti-inflammatory as well.

Regardless, I wouldn't be looking at fructose as a culprit in inflammation, quite the opposite.

 

Back up in WNY by Lake Ontario to grow temperate fruit and be by the wife's family.

 

Hurricane Ian put a hurting on all vegetation in the area.

[Spartacus]

keeping the fear porn burning!

 

https://www.outkick.com/espns-jalen-rose-says-kevon-looney-shoudlnt-play-game-against-lakers-because-he-might-have-covid/

 

Previewing the Lakers and Warriors’ Game 2, ESPN-NBA analyst Jalen Rose went into a hysteria talking about COVID. Warriors big man Kevon Looney was reportedly dealing with an illness before the game. The broadcast noted that Looney was expected to be on minutes restrictions.

Rather than champion a potential flu-game performance from Looney, Rose started venting his concerns over spreading COVID.

In 2023, ESPN’s analysts are still worried about COVID.

WATCH:

“I admire Looney, he shows up for work every night, he’s been a menace on the boards,” the always bright Jalen Rose said. “That’s the pro for him being there tonight. Here’s the con: he’s sick, right?”

 

 

 

Rose continued, “So that means he has a chance to get everybody else sick. Everybody’s in close proximity in huddles. We just came off of COVID and I don’t wish any of this on his team or his opponents.”

[Spartacus]

fear porn virtue signaling at its finest

 

https://www.outkick.com/north-carolina-high-school-closes-to-clean-for-covid-even-in-2023/

 

One high school in North Carolina announced they’d closed early on Thursday to do a “thorough cleaning and sanitation.” Why, you might ask?

 

Because of a “high number of positive COVID cases.”

 

What possible justification is there for pretending that high schoolers are at the slightest bit of risk from COVID?

 

Sure, there may be older teachers, but they’ve long had the ability to get vaccinated and boosted. Multiple times.

 

It’s the inevitable result of endless misinformation from organizations like the CDC.

 

 

Not to mention the absurdity of thinking that deep cleaning is going to prevent a single further infection.

 

It’s been acknowledged that surfaces are not significant contributors to COVID spread. So why are they wasting their time?

[Spartacus]

But the concerning thing about her resignation is the possibility that her replacement may be even worse.

 

someone truly evil to take advantage of the power of the CDC, not just inept

 

 

https://www.outkick.com/cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-resigns-worst-mistakes/

 

CDC director Rochelle Walensky has resigned her post as the head of the nation’s top public health agency.

 

The CDC as a whole has been an unmitigated disaster, putting out poor quality “research” and studies that led to nearly endless misinformation. The agency promoted masks, despite evidence they don’t work, and created onerous recommendations on school openings.

 

Rochelle Walensky’s ‘Worst Of’ List

There’s a nearly endless number of possibilities to make Walensky’s list of shame. But here’s a few favorites.

VACCINATED PEOPLE DON’T GET SICK

“Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick, and that it’s not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data,” she claimed.

 

MASKS ARE EFFECTIVE

One of the most pernicious, inexcusable mistakes was repeatedly telling the public that masks were protective at preventing transmission or infection.

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Even more infuriating was that she told congress that CDC guidance on masking would essentially never change.

 

That’s correct, no matter what the evidence showed, no matter how many studies disproved masking, Walensky would never stop recommending masks.

 

RISKS OF MYOCARDITIS

All of Walensky’s mistakes were harmful and dangerously misleading. But one of the most indefensible was her efforts to downplay concerns over post-vaccine myocarditis.

 

The CDC privately received reports that myocarditis was a significant problem among younger people, especially men under the age of 30.

 

Even after the agency finally acknowledged the risk of myocarditis to young people, Walensky still urged parents vaccinate kids regardless.

[KD in CA]

[devnull]

15 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Link please, I would like to purchase.

[KD in CA]

20 hours ago, devnull said:

Link please, I would like to purchase.

Sorry, it was a random Facebook tee shirt ad.  If I see it again I’ll post it.

[Spartacus]

Heads up for those still testing for Covid

 

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fda-issues-emergency-bacteria-warning-500000-covid-19-tests

 

Consumers and health care workers are advised "to stop using and toss out certain lots of recalled SD Biosensor, Inc. Pilot COVID-19 At-Home Tests, distributed by Roche Diagnostics."

According to the FDA, the agency has "significant concerns of bacterial contamination" in the liquid solution component of the kits. "Direct contact with the contaminated liquid solution may pose safety concerns and the bacterial contamination could impact the performance of the test," said the agency, issuing a "do not use" warning to consumers.

 

The contamination could have come from raw materials from a supplier, according to SD Biosensor.

 

Specifically, the tests could be contaminated with Enterococcus, Enterobacter, Klebsiella, and Serratia bacterial species - the infection of which could cause illness in individuals with weakened immune systems, or those who have direct exposure to the contaminated liquid test solution via misuse, accidental spills, or “standard handling” of the product, the Epoch Times reports.

[IDBillzFan]

After Joe Biden prematurely said the pandemic was over before signing off that it's over, the WH is here to let you know that, ummm, well...it's not really over...

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

10 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

After Joe Biden prematurely said the pandemic was over before signing off that it's over, the WH is here to let you know that, ummm, well...it's not really over...