Biden's FBI Raids Mar-A-Lago

[devnull]

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

Serious question.... On the Receipt for Property there are boxes they labelled Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. 

 

Who among the FBI Raiders was qualified to view them and classify them as such? Who was qualified to transport them in a regular SUV in boxes the way they did?

 

Any agent with the appropriate clearance.  And yes, the DoJ does have cleared agents

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

Who was qualified to transport them in a regular SUV in boxes the way they did?

 

Anyone with a courier card with the appropriate level clearance

 

44 minutes ago, Ann said:

He declassified it all before he left office. You or I could have tossed it in the back of that SUV. 

 

But did he declassify it properly?  There is a process which if followed will have been documented. 

 

30 minutes ago, Cinga said:

Let me add.... the DOJ KNEW THIS TOO! Or they would have included people among the raiders with the proper clearance and knowledge of how to package and transport classified material.

 

The "raiders" don't need full clearance or extensive training on the handling of classified material to perform a search.  It's a law enforcement search.  Agents are briefed on what they are looking for.  The details are irrelevant, they're blood hounds

 

Example.  My Dad was a city cop with no permanent clearance.  But when DoJ or DoD needed local help, he was granted temporary clearance

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

That's actually correct.  That receipt would be a presidential record.

 

I mean...so's "covfefe."  If the most dumbshit presidential tweets are official federal records, so's the McD's menu he writes "Quarter Pounder with Cheese" on.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

8 minutes ago, devnull said:

 

Any agent with the appropriate clearance.  And yes, the DoJ does have cleared agents

 

Anyone with a courier card with the appropriate level clearance

 

 

But did he declassify it properly?  There is a process which if followed will have been documented. 

 

 

The "raiders" don't need full clearance or extensive training on the handling of classified material to perform a search.  It's a law enforcement search.  Agents are briefed on what they are looking for.  The details are irrelevant, they're blood hounds

 

Example.  My Dad was a city cop with no permanent clearance.  But when DoJ or DoD needed local help, he was granted temporary clearance

 

It's complicated by the fact that much high-level classified information is compartmentalized - meaning you need to be cleared for the specific compartment to view the info.

 

But the rules are less strict for carrying the info (a courier with a TS clearance can carry TS info without being cleared for the compartment, as long as the info is properly securely packaged.)

 

Plus, in the case of "nuclear documents"...that may involve a DOE "Q" clearance, which while equivalent to Top Secret, is not the same as Top Secret.  I honestly have no idea how that would impact things.

 

At a guess?  For executing the warrant, treated the clearance requirements as being the same as for couriers, which there's plenty of agents who'd meet that criteria.

[Cinga]

13 minutes ago, devnull said:

But did he declassify it properly?  There is a process which if followed will have been documented. 

 

Really? The person with ultimate authority of classification has to follow rules or it doesn't work? Here's the thing... He certainly didn't get the documents after he left office, that idea is absolutely laughable. So all of it was taken out while he was still POTUS so I would argue that very act declassed it or as CNN put it, waved his magic wand and declassified it.

[devnull]

1 minute ago, Cinga said:

 

Really? The person with ultimate authority of classification has to follow rules or it doesn't work? Here's the thing... He certainly didn't get the documents after he left office, that idea is absolutely laughable. So all of it was taken out while he was still POTUS so I would argue that very act declassed it or as CNN put it, waved his magic wand and declassified it.

 

Yes, even the President has to follow procedure. 

 

Now granted, since he's the President he could have said he wanted to declassify a document and delegated the paper work.  Which if Trump were a Democrat would be The Narrative

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

4 minutes ago, devnull said:

 

Yes, even the President has to follow procedure. 

 

Now granted, since he's the President he could have said he wanted to declassify a document and delegated the paper work.  Which if Trump were a Democrat would be The Narrative

 

Actually, the only procedure the President has to follow is to order it.  For example: Biden's declassification of 9/11 documents back in 2021.

[Cinga]

24 minutes ago, devnull said:

 

Yes, even the President has to follow procedure. 

 

Now granted, since he's the President he could have said he wanted to declassify a document and delegated the paper work.  Which if Trump were a Democrat would be The Narrative

 

18 minutes ago, Crap Throwing Clavin said:

 

Actually, the only procedure the President has to follow is to order it.  For example: Biden's declassification of 9/11 documents back in 2021.

 

Okay, and then we know that Trump did order it

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

3 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

 

Okay, and then we know that Trump did order it

 

We'll probably hear at some point that it wasn't a real order because Trump intended to commit espionage.  Or some other cart-before-the-horse pile of hippo shit.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Hedge]

25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Let's even leave out the part about SCOTUS. How long would the indictment, conviction, and affirmation take? Tick tock. It will serve the purpose of damaging Trump throughout the run up to the next presidential election.

[Ann]

11 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

Let's even leave out the part about SCOTUS. How long would the indictment, conviction, and affirmation take? Tick tock. It will serve the purpose of damaging Trump throughout the run up to the next presidential election.

I don't think it will turn out the way they think it will if that is the plan. 

[Foxx]

50 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Must be an indictment for Hunter is coming. Thus this latest version of the witchhunt. 

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

They may very well get the indictment but after the absolute fiasco the Bannon trial was there is no way in hell he would be tried in DC. Bannon is surely going to either get his conviction thrown out or a new trial and it won't be in DC. There is no way the DOJ is going to want to embarrass themselves with what would surely be the most watched trial in world history with a totally partisan judge and jury

[Cinga]

Edited August 13, 2022 by Cinga

[devnull]

1 hour ago, Cinga said:

 

#FakeNews

 

Melania Trump would never wear anything that atrocious.

[Spartacus]

Marjorie Taylor Greene files articles of impeachment against Garland (msn.com)

[Ann]

Former Gorsuch Law Clerk:

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[Ann]

Tulsi was subbing for Tucker last night:
 

 

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