Biden's FBI Raids Mar-A-Lago

[Cinga]

16 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

 

That's not really fair though since Melania could make bib-overalls look good on her

[Koko]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Of course the FBI is targeting Kash, the guy who did the most from the inside to expose the scam that was Russiagate. 

 

 

So they lied. Again. And then hid their lies with redactions.

 

 

 

Interesting that the referral was made to the FBI on February 9th.

 

Unsurprising that most everything is blacked out. You know, because the FBI is totally trustworthy when it comes to redactions. McCabe's $70,000 conference table was certainly a matter of national security, if everyone will recall.

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

A Ukrainian infiltrates Mar-a-Lago by pretending to be a member of a banking family with strong ties to Sweden.

 

 

@Deranged Rhino?

 

 

[Ann]

[Ann]

We shall see if they get anything. They were the only ones that got anything out of the courts during the Obama years, so here's hoping.
 

Watchdog files lawsuit against Nat'l Archives for hiding records tied to raid on Trump's home

 

The watchdog group Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) for records regarding its referral to the Justice Dept. about former President Trump’s presidential records.

 

The lawsuit was filed in US District Court for the District of Columbia after the National Archives and Records 

 

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The Biden administration’s raid on President Trump’s home is an outrageous, reckless and unprecedented abuse of power. And the American people have an urgent right to know how the Biden administration manufactured the records dispute used as a pretext for the raid on Trump’s home. The Biden administration’s unlawful secrecy on its political raid of Trump’s home speaks volumes.”

 

Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch President

 

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[Ann]

Judge plans to appoint special master in Trump records case

 

A federal judge in Florida told the Justice Department on Saturday to provide her with more specific information about the classified records removed from former President Donald Trump's Florida estate and said it was her “preliminary intent” to appoint a special master in the case.

 

The two-page order from U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon signals that she’s inclined to grant a request from Trump’s lawyers, who this week asked for the appointment of an independent special master to oversee the review the records taken from Mar-a-Lago and identify any that may be protected by executive privilege, and to ensure the return of any documents outside the scope of the search warrant.

 

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[Fansince88]

Dont ask where I got this but I am told it is actual footage on the raid of Mar-a-lago!

[SackMan518]

In its summary section, the Affidavit — as expected — was so heavily redacted that it does NOT establish probable cause for a raid of a former’s president’s home, despite what some otherwise smart pundits argue. Plus, there were other tools available to the FBI, like a subpoena, but they went with the most invasive and violent choice instead, and the Affidavit does not explain that remarkable decision. I’ll return to this point in a bit.

 

Here’s how it started. Between May and December 2021, deep-state bureaucrats at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA or the National Archives) pestered Trump’s people about a small number of presidential documents that NARA thought should’ve been turned over to the Archives instead of stored at Mar-a-Lago.

 

Those conversations ended in early January when Trump returned fifteen boxes of documents to NARA. Fifteen banker’s boxes of documents is NOT a lot. For reference, even my smallest trial cases consume more than fifteen banker’s boxes of documents. In one case, now settled, my client recently got around to picking up five year’s worth of payroll records; those ALONE filled about twelve banker’s boxes, never mind all the OTHER documents related to the case.

 

So fifteen boxes of documents from a four-year Presidential term is really nothing.

 

According to the Affidavit, the fifteen boxes Trump sent to NARA included “newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and post-presidential records,” and mixed in with everything else, a handful of documents having secret classification markings.

The classified materials could’ve fit into a couple large manila file folders.

 

You can imagine the gleeful laughter around the NARA office when they fly-specked the fifteen boxes and yanked out the ones with classified markings. So what’s a diligent anti-Trump deep-state bureaucrat to do? Report a crime, of course! In February, NARA essentially filed a police report with Biden’s DOJ, which immediately called a grand jury and began an investigation.

 

It’s DEFINITELY not politics. Shame on you.

 

You may recall that immediately after the raid, Joe Biden was CLEAR. He didn’t have ANYTHING to do with the raid; it was purely a law enforcement matter. In fact, he said, he didn’t even KNOW they were investigating Trump, never even heard about it.

 

We now know Joe lied. Shocking, I know. It turns out there was a major impediment to the FBI’s legal ability to search a former president’s home: Presidential privilege. The privilege completely protects a former President’s confidential records and communications. It was a thorny problem.

 

But don’t worry! Joe and his lawyers found a loophole: Joe, acting as the CURRENT President, conveniently waived aside the Presidential privilege FOR TRUMP, on the theory that the acting President holds the right to waive or preserve the privilege, no matter which President first asserted it.

 

Is the waiver legal? Who knows. Who cares! It’s never been done before. But it gave the FBI the cover it needed to move forward with the raid, and since he didn’t KNOW Joe had waived his privilege, Trump couldn’t fight it. Checkmate.

Joe is dumber than a crate of pop rocks. I hope the next Republican president waives the presidential privilege for EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT going back to George Washington. BAM.

 

And … where’s all the outcry and protest from the other former Presidents? Hello? Bush? Bueller? Anybody? And of course, the useless corporate media is completely silent. You can’t find any major article discussing this historic Biden legal wrangling, not at all.

 

As I’m sure you’ve already heard, the Affidavit is heavily redacted:

 

[Cinga]

1 hour ago, SackMan518 said:

In its summary section, the Affidavit — as expected — was so heavily redacted that it does NOT establish probable cause for a raid of a former’s president’s home, despite what some otherwise smart pundits argue. Plus, there were other tools available to the FBI, like a subpoena, but they went with the most invasive and violent choice instead, and the Affidavit does not explain that remarkable decision. I’ll return to this point in a bit.

 

Here’s how it started. Between May and December 2021, deep-state bureaucrats at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA or the National Archives) pestered Trump’s people about a small number of presidential documents that NARA thought should’ve been turned over to the Archives instead of stored at Mar-a-Lago.

 

Those conversations ended in early January when Trump returned fifteen boxes of documents to NARA. Fifteen banker’s boxes of documents is NOT a lot. For reference, even my smallest trial cases consume more than fifteen banker’s boxes of documents. In one case, now settled, my client recently got around to picking up five year’s worth of payroll records; those ALONE filled about twelve banker’s boxes, never mind all the OTHER documents related to the case.

 

So fifteen boxes of documents from a four-year Presidential term is really nothing.

 

According to the Affidavit, the fifteen boxes Trump sent to NARA included “newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and post-presidential records,” and mixed in with everything else, a handful of documents having secret classification markings.

The classified materials could’ve fit into a couple large manila file folders.

 

You can imagine the gleeful laughter around the NARA office when they fly-specked the fifteen boxes and yanked out the ones with classified markings. So what’s a diligent anti-Trump deep-state bureaucrat to do? Report a crime, of course! In February, NARA essentially filed a police report with Biden’s DOJ, which immediately called a grand jury and began an investigation.

 

It’s DEFINITELY not politics. Shame on you.

 

You may recall that immediately after the raid, Joe Biden was CLEAR. He didn’t have ANYTHING to do with the raid; it was purely a law enforcement matter. In fact, he said, he didn’t even KNOW they were investigating Trump, never even heard about it.

 

We now know Joe lied. Shocking, I know. It turns out there was a major impediment to the FBI’s legal ability to search a former president’s home: Presidential privilege. The privilege completely protects a former President’s confidential records and communications. It was a thorny problem.

 

But don’t worry! Joe and his lawyers found a loophole: Joe, acting as the CURRENT President, conveniently waived aside the Presidential privilege FOR TRUMP, on the theory that the acting President holds the right to waive or preserve the privilege, no matter which President first asserted it.

 

Is the waiver legal? Who knows. Who cares! It’s never been done before. But it gave the FBI the cover it needed to move forward with the raid, and since he didn’t KNOW Joe had waived his privilege, Trump couldn’t fight it. Checkmate.

Joe is dumber than a crate of pop rocks. I hope the next Republican president waives the presidential privilege for EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT going back to George Washington. BAM.

 

And … where’s all the outcry and protest from the other former Presidents? Hello? Bush? Bueller? Anybody? And of course, the useless corporate media is completely silent. You can’t find any major article discussing this historic Biden legal wrangling, not at all.

 

As I’m sure you’ve already heard, the Affidavit is heavily redacted:

 

 

But Trump is a Mega-Maga Super-Duper Semi-Fascist so of course that makes it okay!

[Cinga]

The video is on Truth so I can't share the link

 

 

[Hedge]

 

 

“More than half” is probably extremely generous though. I’ld guess it closer to 20% after you discount those who are solely locked into the Republican vs Democrat frame of mind, meaning those who support Trump because he’s an R instead of because they know what’s been going on.

[SackMan518]

12 hours ago, Cinga said:

The video is on Truth so I can't share the link

 

 

 

Also here:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChvZGbhpJEU/

[Ann]

 

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[Spartacus]

Mike Pence Just Spoke To The Media About The DOJ’s Investigation Of Donald Trump As Rumors Of A Presidential Run Rage (msn.com)

 

As the walls continue to close in on Donald Trump, it seems Mike Pence wants to distance himself. The twice-impeached former president, 76, is currently being investigated for allegedly obstructing justice and violating the Espionage Act (as he reportedly took classified documents home with him), and Pence, 63, is appearing to keep his lips sealed on the matter as much as possible.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Turley has it twisted. It's not a "failure" by MG, it's what he was appointed to do: circumvent the law in order to criminalize all those who dissent against the establishment's narrative. And this is acceptable to the NPC crowd (which is not just limited to the left side of the spectrum) because of the OMB principle which now is more important than the rule of law or the Republic itself.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

"It was all above board"

[SackMan518]

These are the kinds of epic blunders that happen when you have a brain dead President, who was never elected, and is controlled by extremists.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Cinga]

16 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

I am about fed up with seeing idiots post law that applies to government officials as if it also applies to a POTUS. We have all discussed how POTUS is the final arbiter of anything, and all things classified so why does the media seem so frigging ignorant of that?

 

I'd also point to the very evidence the warrant cites as being enough to exonerate any possible charges!

Anyone that has read the warrant affidavit knows it cites law as well as established rules within the executive branch that can be found in Obama EO 13526.

But no one in the media has actually read the thing either, or they would see that Obama rightfully so, exempts the POTUS and Vice POTUS of these rules that deal with everything from, classifying, to declassifying, to handling and storage. 

So, as you read through the warrant did you see there citing CBS news video of boxes being moved into Mar-A-Lago that they claim may have been classified material? Did you see the date of the video? January 18, 2020? Who was President on that date?

But dig a little further, Section 4 of the EO which is titled "Safeguarding" of classified material. Scroll down to 4.4 Titled "Access by Historical Researchers and Certain Government Officials"

 

Quote

Sec. 4.4.  Access by Historical Researchers and Certain Former Government Personnel.  (a)  The requirement in section 4.1(a)(3) of this order that access to classified information may be granted only to individuals who have a need to-know the information may be waived for persons who:

(1)  are engaged in historical research projects;

(2)  previously have occupied senior policy-making positions to which they were appointed or designated by the President or the Vice President; or

(3)  served as President or Vice President.

 

Once again, POTUS and Vice, both current and former are exempt from these laws! But note as well on (2), "senior policy makers which were appointed or designated....." Past tense! So an very good argument could be made that everyone in Trump circle that had access to the documents had been appointed by him

 

Sorry for the long rant, but this entire thing is blowing up only because of lazy media who is not only complicate in this, but literally cheering it on as accomplices in trying to incite a civil war

Edited August 31, 2022 by Cinga