2023 NFL Quarterback Carousel

[Alaska Darin]

12 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

"trading Lance internally" is clumsy wording, but I wouldn't be surprised to see SF move on from Lance. 

Man, if SF can't make it work with the guy...you have to be pretty leery.  They spent a lot of capital to get him and he's still on his rookie deal. 

[Ann]

19 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Man, if SF can't make it work with the guy...you have to be pretty leery.  They spent a lot of capital to get him and he's still on his rookie deal. 

Seems like they are all in on Brock Purdy.  Might as well get something for Trey Lance. 

[snafu]

19 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Man, if SF can't make it work with the guy...you have to be pretty leery.  They spent a lot of capital to get him and he's still on his rookie deal. 

He needs a change of scenery?

Maybe he just can’t succeed with a good OLine, tons of weapons and a creative HC?

 

 

[Spartacus]

 

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2018/09/05/captain-andrew-luck-parody-account-colts-qb-best-tweets/1202981002/

 

[Ann]

Well when you can jump over and push aside guys...

[Ann]

This is interesting:
 

 

 

[Ann]

He is good

 

 

 

[Ann]

Help would be nice

 

 

 

[Ann]

I thought they were golfing?
 

 

[Ann]

Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL's top 10 quarterbacks for 2023

 

Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL's top 10 quarterbacks for 2023

By way of refresher, here's how our process works: Voters give us their best 10 players at a position, then we compile the results and rank candidates based on number of top-10 votes, composite average, along with dozens of interviews, research and film-study help from ESPN NFL analyst Matt Bowen. In total, more than 80 voters submitted a ballot on at least one position, and in many cases all positions. We had several ties, so we broke them with the help of additional voting and follow-up calls with those surveyed.

1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
2. Joe Burrow, Bengals

3. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 3

 

Allen has bolstered his case as a top-three quarterback but hasn't quite experienced the breakthrough that feels inevitable.

 

He's well ahead of the quarterbacks ranked Nos. 4-10 in the voting, but he was far behind Mahomes and Burrow.

The prolific scorer has 84 total touchdowns since 2021 (71 passing, 13 rushing). He's the only quarterback in NFL history to record three seasons with at least 35 passing touchdowns and five rushing touchdowns.

 

But his 29 interceptions during that span are the third worst in the league.

 

"His top 20 plays in a game are as good as Mahomes," a national NFL scout said. "But then Buffalo will go nearly a half and do next to nothing. That doesn't happen to Kansas City."

 

Allen was still dominant while under duress in 2022 with a 76.2 QBR when under pressure, nearly 23 points higher than the rest of the quarterback field. His 91.2 third-down QBR also led the league.

 

"If you're starting a team, I'd consider taking him first," an AFC exec said. "He can put a team on his back."

But the Bills ran out of gas in a 27-10 playoff loss to Cincinnati, the culmination of a year marred by injuries and Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest. The offense also was transitioning to first-year coordinator Ken Dorsey.

 

"I think he got worn down mentally and physically at the end of last year," the scout said of Allen. "He had a lot on his plate. They didn't seem as creative without [Brian] Daboll. Some games it felt like they were throwing it 40 or so times, and he was running it another 10 times or more. He just needed help."

4. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
5. Justin Herbert, Chargers
6. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
7. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
8. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
9. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
10. Matthew Stafford, Rams

 

[Taro T]

9 hours ago, Ann said:

Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL's top 10 quarterbacks for 2023

 

Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL's top 10 quarterbacks for 2023

By way of refresher, here's how our process works: Voters give us their best 10 players at a position, then we compile the results and rank candidates based on number of top-10 votes, composite average, along with dozens of interviews, research and film-study help from ESPN NFL analyst Matt Bowen. In total, more than 80 voters submitted a ballot on at least one position, and in many cases all positions. We had several ties, so we broke them with the help of additional voting and follow-up calls with those surveyed.

1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
2. Joe Burrow, Bengals

3. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills
Highest ranking: 1 | Lowest ranking: 5
Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 3

 

Allen has bolstered his case as a top-three quarterback but hasn't quite experienced the breakthrough that feels inevitable.

 

He's well ahead of the quarterbacks ranked Nos. 4-10 in the voting, but he was far behind Mahomes and Burrow.

The prolific scorer has 84 total touchdowns since 2021 (71 passing, 13 rushing). He's the only quarterback in NFL history to record three seasons with at least 35 passing touchdowns and five rushing touchdowns.

 

But his 29 interceptions during that span are the third worst in the league.

 

"His top 20 plays in a game are as good as Mahomes," a national NFL scout said. "But then Buffalo will go nearly a half and do next to nothing. That doesn't happen to Kansas City."

 

Allen was still dominant while under duress in 2022 with a 76.2 QBR when under pressure, nearly 23 points higher than the rest of the quarterback field. His 91.2 third-down QBR also led the league.

 

"If you're starting a team, I'd consider taking him first," an AFC exec said. "He can put a team on his back."

But the Bills ran out of gas in a 27-10 playoff loss to Cincinnati, the culmination of a year marred by injuries and Damar Hamlin's cardiac arrest. The offense also was transitioning to first-year coordinator Ken Dorsey.

 

"I think he got worn down mentally and physically at the end of last year," the scout said of Allen. "He had a lot on his plate. They didn't seem as creative without [Brian] Daboll. Some games it felt like they were throwing it 40 or so times, and he was running it another 10 times or more. He just needed help."

4. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
5. Justin Herbert, Chargers
6. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
7. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
8. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars
9. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
10. Matthew Stafford, Rams

 

 

Would be fun to read Fish and Cheats fans whining about neither of their guys being in the top 10.  (Rightly so IMHO.)

[Ann]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

Would be fun to read Fish and Cheats fans whining about neither of their guys being in the top 10.  (Rightly so IMHO.)

Oh, go to twitter and read the crying about Tua not making top 10 from #finsup. It is something else.

[Taro T]

7 minutes ago, Ann said:

Oh, go to twitter and read the crying about Tua not making top 10 from #finsup. It is something else.

 

Would have to log in.  (Have a twitter account (or 2) but have never actually used it.)  Can only see the individual tweet without logging in.

 

Might have to bite the bullet and log in to see it.

[Ann]

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[Ann]

I like the Matt Ryan one the best. It looked like slow motion.

 

 

 

 

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

13 minutes ago, Ann said:

I like the Matt Ryan one the best. It looked like slow motion.

 

 

 

 

 

Justin Fields is one fast little shit.

 

I have it on my calendar that Matt Ryan is going to finish his run sometime Tuesday afternoon.

[Ann]

Jimmy G

[Crap Throwing Clavin]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

Jimmy G

 

They're probably just happy he wasn't hurt during the physical.

 

[Ann]

When does season 2 start? What if Aaron Rodgers is no longer playing?

 

 

[Ann]

Kirk, Kirk, Kirk...