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[Mahoney]

28 minutes ago, Joe said:

Then what from eagles?

There were two separate trades. In the second, the Dolphins got #6 this year and gave the Eagles #12 and one of their two 2022 first-rounders. They also swapped 3s and 4s, with Miami getting the 3.
 

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[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, Mahoney said:

There were two separate trades. In the second, the Dolphins got #6 this year and gave the Eagles #12 and one of their two 2022 first-rounders. They also swapped 3s and 4s, with Miami getting the 3.
 

 

Maybe I'm just a punchdrunk Bills homer, but the value of all those first round picks to me is in a trade, not in all the amazing players they would get in the first round for the next three years. Just because you have those picks doesn't mean they automatically work out.

 

Some speculate it's to get Watson, but I have to believe Watson is about to be benched for a while. The NFL can't go all in on social justice, promote the shit out of women in the NFL, just to watch a guy accused of blowing his wad all over massage therapists and asking them to shit themselves be part of the biggest trade of the year.

[Ann]

 

 

Laremy Tunsil becomes Dolphins legend: OT shares picture of himself as a statue outside Hard Rock Stadium

The Dolphins essentially received four first-round picks in the Tunsil trade from 2019 [Previously posted here if that does not sound like news to you]
 

Laremy Tunsil will forever be a legend for the Miami Dolphins, but not for anything the Pro Bowl offensive lineman has done on the field. Tunsil has reached Hershel Walker status in Miami -- and he knows it -- two years after the Dolphins traded him to the Houston Texans, which originally netted them two first-round picks.
 

To recap the Tunsil trade, a week before the season began in 2019, Miami sent Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick, and a 2021 sixth-round pick to the Texans for a 2020 first-round pick, a 2021 first-round pick, a 2021 second-round pick, cornerback Johnson Bademosi and tackle Julien Davenport. The 2020 first-round pick ended up becoming cornerback Noah Igbinoghene after a trade down with Green Bay that landed the Dolphins the No. 30 overall pick in that draft and a 2020 fourth-round pick (which was later dealt).
 

Houston was one of the worst teams in the NFL last season, which landed Miami the No. 3 overall pick in the draft. On Friday, the Dolphins used that No. 3 pick to trade down in the draft with the San Francisco 49ers for the No. 12 overall pick, a 2022 first-round pick, a 2022 third-round pick, and a 2023 first-round pick. The Dolphins then used that No. 12 pick to trade up to the No. 6 overall pick, giving the Philadelphia Eagles a 2021 fourth-round pick (No. 123) and a 2022 first-round pick (which is their own pick, not one acquired from San Francisco).
 

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•    2020 first-round pick (No. 26 overall)
•    2021 first-round pick (No. 12 overall)
•    2021 second-round pick (No. 36 overall)
•    2022 first-round pick
•    2022 third-round pick
•    2023 first-round pick

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[Ann]

The pressure is on...

Dolphins now swimming in draft capital, but this rebuild rests on Tua ... and will be judged in the standings
 

Miami has 13 picks in the first three rounds of the next three drafts, but ask the Browns if that path is foolproof
 

In theory, it is difficult to quibble with the smart and progressive approach the Dolphins have taken to their rebuild under general manager Chris Grier. I've long been a proponent of them finally taking the long-view – and full roster teardown – in order to best position themselves for potential sustained success.
 

And Friday's trades – moving out of the third overall selection in a trade with the 49ers, and then eventually back into the sixth spot via a swap with the Eagles – are again a testament to that. There is a clear vision and execution and method to their maneuvers and roster/asset manipulations. I'm not wavering from championing any of that as an organizational strata. However, we have reached a point now, with expectations raised, when this enterprise is shifting from theory to practice – as in finding and developing the best from those draft selections with all involved working in synergy. It's about how much production those young players yield every week, and how that translates to wins.
 

And I'd be lying if I said I didn't have some trepidation about how this will play out.
 

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[Ann]

LOL What an article. Every team has Negative Nancy fans. The Bills are good now, and there are still fans complaining about A, B, and C.  Look at how the KC fans ripped the team after their SB loss this year.

In any event, I don't think the Miami Fans are the most negative. There are other fan bases that are worse. Heck, the Dolphin fans are not even the most negative in the AFCE (that would be the Jets Fans).

Do The Dolphins Have The World’s Most Negative Fan Base?

[B-Man]

Buzz on where the Miami Dolphins stand at every position on defense entering the NFL Draft

[Ann]

I think it would be more surprising if they weren't getting calls...
 

Dolphins fielding calls for No. 6 pick, considering a third swap in first round of 2021 NFL Draft, per report

Could a team outside the top 10 be looking to strike for a QB?
 

The Miami Dolphins have already swapped first-round picks twice this offseason, first moving back from No. 3 to No. 12 as part of a blockbuster deal with the San Francisco 49ers, then moving back up to No. 6 in an exchange of future picks with the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, with the 2021 NFL Draft right around the corner, the Dolphins could be eyeing a third shuffle of Day One picks. According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Miami has fielded calls from teams looking to acquire No. 6 and is considering a move back down.
 

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[Just Joshin]

1 hour ago, Ann said:

I think it would be more surprising if they weren't getting calls...
 

Dolphins fielding calls for No. 6 pick, considering a third swap in first round of 2021 NFL Draft, per report

Could a team outside the top 10 be looking to strike for a QB?
 

The Miami Dolphins have already swapped first-round picks twice this offseason, first moving back from No. 3 to No. 12 as part of a blockbuster deal with the San Francisco 49ers, then moving back up to No. 6 in an exchange of future picks with the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, with the 2021 NFL Draft right around the corner, the Dolphins could be eyeing a third shuffle of Day One picks. According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Miami has fielded calls from teams looking to acquire No. 6 and is considering a move back down.
 

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I hope they do.....at 6 they may get Pitts and that is the one player who would worry me.

[B-Man]

 

I would hope that they were smart enough to not let New England trade up for a QB.

 

 

 

[Ann]

Grier: Dolphins confident in Tua Tagovailoa, ready to build around 'winner'
 

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"Especially when you're picking where we're picking, you always look at your team, and Tua's a big part of that," Grier explained Wednesday. "So as we build around and what we're doing, yeah, you're always looking at what does your quarterback do best, but you're also looking at weighing that versus the best players available and what you do for your team, because at the end of the day it's always about the team. It's not about one player, one pick, one person. You've heard Brian (Flores) talk about team-first players that fit right. For us, it's just looking for the right player, the right person, the right fit for our team, as well as the mesh with the quarterback."
 

Tagovailoa has a considerable amount to prove in Year 2 after his rookie season was less than stellar. While the former Alabama star learned the game on the fly and attempted to keep Miami in playoff contention amid a season played during a pandemic, the quarterback drafted immediately after him ( Justin Herbert ) became a ball of fire, lighting up the stat sheet on his way to winning Offensive Rookie of the Year.
 

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[B-Man]

MIAMI DOLPHINS20h

Miami Dolphins eyeing several centers in NFL Draft

 

 

[Ann]

 

 

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1387055596021723136

[Ann]

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Flowers previously played for Washington in 2019, then signed a three-year, $30 million contract with Miami last year. He’s due to make $9 million this season.
 

Originally the ninth overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft, Flowers was selected by the Giants with the idea that he’d develop into a franchise left tackle. He never did that, but he’s become a solid starting guard, and Washington clearly believes it has just upgraded its offensive line.
 

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[Foxx]

6 hours ago, Ann said:

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Flowers previously played for Washington in 2019, then signed a three-year, $30 million contract with Miami last year. He’s due to make $9 million this season.
 

Originally the ninth overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft, Flowers was selected by the Giants with the idea that he’d develop into a franchise left tackle. He never did that, but he’s become a solid starting guard, and Washington clearly believes it has just upgraded its offensive line.
 

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Miami paying $6mm of his salary .

[Alaska Darin]

35 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Miami paying $6mm of his salary .

Boy, is their front office good at compiling assets and then wasting them. 

[Ann]

This was cute
 

 

[Ann]

heh And now he's interviewing with Carolina.
 

 

 

[Ann]

It's coming soon for the Dolphins. All depends on Tua as to how soon.
 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Miami Is Ready to Contend in the AFC 😤

The rebuild is over. @Gagnon breaks down a loaded Dolphins squad ready to make a big run ➡️

[IDBillzFan]

50 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Miami Is Ready to Contend in the AFC 😤

The rebuild is over. @Gagnon breaks down a loaded Dolphins squad ready to make a big run ➡️

 

Y'know Mrs. Buckman...you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car...hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a sportswriter.

 

Joking aside, Gagnon is laying the argumentative groundwork for what will very likely come: the Fish just shot their entire draft capital wad based on whether Tua is their guy.

 

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1. It's possible Tagovailoa won't become a franchise-caliber NFL quarterback, regardless of the support he has. The majority of first-round quarterbacks become busts and fellow 2020 top-10 signal-callers Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert are off to strong starts. Tua lacked playmaking ability almost entirely in 2020, and there's no guarantee that'll change in 2021. 

 

No shit, Sherlock. At least Tua doesn't have to worry about getting benched for Fitz every week.