Covid Thread - NFL Impacts

[IDBillzFan]

6 hours ago, Figster said:

Having Allen scratched from the line up when you just bet your whole life savings on a Bills victory might bring people around to the realization this info might be helpful.

 

I'm just saying ;  )

 

Welcome to gambling. Do you know how many unspoken variables go into who does and doesn't play on any given day? Should we alert the gamblers to all of them? I'm sure the coaches would love to share all that inside info with their upcoming opponents. 

 

If you're stupid enough to bet your whole life savings on a Bills victory, you've got bigger problems then the integrity of gambling. And this is being written by someone who has been absolutely stupid enough to bet money I didn't have on a football game.

[plenzmd1]

21 hours ago, Joe said:

And yet, no one's throwing hissy over it

 

twitter has ruined more than 1 career..

[plenzmd1]

7 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Welcome to gambling. Do you know how many unspoken variables go into who does and doesn't play on any given day? Should we alert the gamblers to all of them? I'm sure the coaches would love to share all that inside info with their upcoming opponents. 

 

If you're stupid enough to bet your whole life savings on a Bills victory, you've got bigger problems then the integrity of gambling. And this is being written by someone who has been absolutely stupid enough to bet money I didn't have on a football game.

I see both sides here.

 

1) The whole reason for daily injury reports and fines for not disclosing injuries etc has always been 100% about gambling and revenue enhancement, even when the NFL insisted gambling was morally reprehensible and all gamblers were going to hell. So if someone not vaxed and carries a greater chance of not playing, that is relevant to the revenue stream of the NFL..even more so now

 

2) Disclosing VAX status OTOH seems like a step too far...but think it is prolly easy to figure in either case.

[Spartacus]

40 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I see both sides here.

 

1) The whole reason for daily injury reports and fines for not disclosing injuries etc has always been 100% about gambling and revenue enhancement, even when the NFL insisted gambling was morally reprehensible and all gamblers were going to hell. So if someone not vaxed and carries a greater chance of not playing, that is relevant to the revenue stream of the NFL..even more so now

 

2) Disclosing VAX status OTOH seems like a step too far...but think it is prolly easy to figure in either case.

 

seems all vaxxed can carry and transmit the virus

they are all subject to suspension as well

no pointy in segregating at this point

 

ditch the testing for all

take their temp every day

stay home if sick

[Ann]

48 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I see both sides here.

 

1) The whole reason for daily injury reports and fines for not disclosing injuries etc has always been 100% about gambling and revenue enhancement, even when the NFL insisted gambling was morally reprehensible and all gamblers were going to hell. So if someone not vaxed and carries a greater chance of not playing, that is relevant to the revenue stream of the NFL..even more so now

 

2) Disclosing VAX status OTOH seems like a step too far...but think it is prolly easy to figure in either case.

Hmmm I never thought of this being about gambling this year. I thought the NFL was sincere in wanting to keep their players healthy, but now that you pointed it out, I would not be surprised if it is more bottom-line via gambling, especially in light of allowing gambling advertising during broadcasts this year, as well as the the MGM Resorts being the official gambling partner of the Las Vegas Raiders.

 

[plenzmd1]

19 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

 

seems all vaxxed can carry and transmit the virus

they are all subject to suspension as well

no pointy in segregating at this point

 

ditch the testing for all

take their temp every day

stay home if sick

massive difference between vax and unvaxed re the PROTOCOLS and Rules, not the practicality or science behind the protocols.

 

As we saw this week, unvaxed  quarantined  5 days with a close contact and negative tests...vax not quarantined at all with close contact.

 

A Vax player who tests Postive that is asymptomatic just needs two negative tests 24 hrs apart and can return, no minimum days out.

 

Unvaxed out 10 days minimum.

 

Unvaxed Tested everyday, vax every 14 days( proposed mobe to 7)

 

 

Again, not arguing whether these protocols makes sense, but dems the rules right now. ..and I can see it being a factor in a gamblers decision.

[plenzmd1]

as an aside to the above discussion, Ross Tucker thinks the Bills  vax status is an absolute risk and must be factored into someones bet on win totals. He is convinced it is going to cost the Bills one game this year at least...and that can make YUGE difference between a win and loss on a totals bet!

[Spartacus]

26 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

massive difference between vax and unvaxed re the PROTOCOLS and Rules, not the practicality or science behind the protocols.

 

As we saw this week, unvaxed  quarantined  5 days with a close contact and negative tests...vax not quarantined at all with close contact.

 

A Vax player who tests Postive that is asymptomatic just needs two negative tests 24 hrs apart and can return, no minimum days out.

 

Unvaxed out 10 days minimum.

 

Unvaxed Tested everyday, vax every 14 days( proposed mobe to 7)

 

 

Again, not arguing whether these protocols makes sense, but dems the rules right now. ..and I can see it being a factor in a gamblers decision.

absolutely the protocols suck

not designed for health, but to push an agenda

but what do you expect after the CDC has provided the NFL with billions of persuasion

 

 

[Ann]

Ok, so he did get vaccinated. He stated he was when it all went down, so he must have been fined for something that happened either before vaxxed, or in the two week period after. (His card says 8/28/21 at ECMC, he's doing the Pfizer jabs)
 

 

[Figster]

9 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Welcome to gambling. Do you know how many unspoken variables go into who does and doesn't play on any given day? Should we alert the gamblers to all of them? I'm sure the coaches would love to share all that inside info with their upcoming opponents. 

 

If you're stupid enough to bet your whole life savings on a Bills victory, you've got bigger problems then the integrity of gambling. And this is being written by someone who has been absolutely stupid enough to bet money I didn't have on a football game.

I was joking, but ok

[Ann]

 

 

https://twitter.com/Marcel_LJ/status/1431644117856047107

[Ann]

 

 

https://twitter.com/Buccaneers/status/1431714484196872195

[Ann]

Wasn't Wentz already on it?
 

 

[Ann]

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/JoeCarile/status/1432405927492214790

[Foxx]

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[Ann]

Unvaccinated players are still subject to 5 days close-contact protocols (they sit out) even with negative testing.
 

 

 

 

 

[Ann]

Crazy:



 

[Ann]

More:









 

[Ann]

From the same tweet:

 

 

[GG1]

Don't have pregame thread for the opener yet, and this genius analysis probably fits better here.

 

Something in me says that Tomlin wishes this idiot had kept his Covid hot-take off the paper.  Because clearly it's the Bills' star safety who beat up a star WR because of Covid disagreements.  

 

 

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Mark Madden: Steelers will beat disheveled Bills in Week 1

The Steelers will beat host Buffalo in the opener. The constant covid debate surrounding the Bills has them disheveled. The Steelers are all football. Steelers win. You heard it here.