afc east Dolphins Chat

[Foxx]

The phish are still hurting.

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[IDBillzFan]

33 minutes ago, Foxx said:

The phish are still hurting.

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I'm not doctor, but I feel like groin injuries makes it really difficult to play full tilt.

[Nanker]

No excuses Fins. No excuses.

[SackMan518]

What does it matter? They've already won their Super Bowl by beating the Buffalo Bills by an ass hair.

[whatdrought]

The NFL has a specific day planned for when their comprehensive, and thorough investigation will be completed. It’s not completed now. But it will be completed then. There’s more to do. But then there won’t be. But it’s thorough. Ohhhh boy. Is it thorough. And comprehensive. One could even go so far as to say it’s comprehensively thorough. 

[Alaska Darin]

7 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I'm not doctor, but I feel like groin injuries makes it really difficult to play full tilt.

I had one in high school.  I did everything they told me to and came back on the exact timeline.  I did all the exercises, all the stretching stuff, appropriate warmup/cool down...then tore the &#%$ing thing again in the second practice.

[IDBillzFan]

 

[whatdrought]

League finished the investigation. Bullet points:

 

- The Dolphins didn’t do anything wrong

 

- They never checked his “back injury”

 

- Firing that guy was a mistake

 

 

Im sure this is all Kosher.

[Alaska Darin]

So...they never even checked for a back injury?  Man, Tua has everything he needs to own that team.

 

 

[whatdrought]

The two most embarrassing things that have happened to the NFL recently have been caused by their “independent” experts…

 

An independent judge screwed up the Watson ruling and an independent doc screwed this up. 

[whatdrought]

The amount of shield covering is so gross.

[Sig1Hunter]

26 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

The amount of shield covering is so gross.

Yet, four days later his brain is Cream of Wheat.

[Sig1Hunter]

27 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

The amount of shield covering is so gross.

btw, what symptoms would he show that wouldnt be self reported? Unequal pupils, maybe? Nystagmus, maybe?  Don’t they have to take some cognitive test and match it with a baseline taken at the beginning of the season? 

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

btw, what symptoms would he show that wouldnt be self reported? Unequal pupils, maybe? Nystagmus, maybe?  Don’t they have to take some cognitive test and match it with a baseline taken at the beginning of the season? 

 

Believe the bolded is correct.  But if a guy is dumb enough, how much can that show? 

 

Slightly tangential, but had Jim Kelly gotten concussed in the 1st 1/2 of the Skins SuperBowl rather than the 2nd 1/2, the Bills might've won that game.  He was lights out after he went lights out.  Maybe Tua's in that same boat?

[Sig1Hunter]

30 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Believe the bolded is correct.  But if a guy is dumb enough, how much can that show? 

 

Slightly tangential, but had Jim Kelly gotten concussed in the 1st 1/2 of the Skins SuperBowl rather than the 2nd 1/2, the Bills might've won that game.  He was lights out after he went lights out.  Maybe Tua's in that same boat?

it’s just weird that it wasn’t mentioned that they reviewed that. Seems like that is the main evidence of concussion from an objective standpoint (other than diagnostic imaging)

[Taro T]

27 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

it’s just weird that it wasn’t mentioned that they reviewed that. Seems like that is the main evidence of concussion from an objective standpoint (other than diagnostic imaging)

 

It isn't if you go back to what the Fishies were saying prior to the Bungles game.  He'd had a back (& ankle) injury; he did NOT have a head injury.  IF he didn't have a head injury AND as they say he subsequently did not exhibit any concussion symptoms then there was no reason to be testing him as he WAS NOT IN THE CONCUSSION PROTOCOLS.

 

They flat out admitted that they essentially asked Tua if he had a concussion and he said 'no, he hurt his back, not his head' and the doctor said 'duh, OK, but you'd let us know if you did get a boo boo on your head, right'  and once Tua said 'turdlegumph' the doctor & the neurological specialist both looked at each other and nodded, 'yup, he's fine.'

 

And again, this brings up another annoying thing about this, the NFL's CMO claims the Fish were testing Tua every day but the Fish explicitly denied that (prior to the Bungles game) and the joint statement never says that he was tested after saying he had a back injury, just that he never exhibited concussion symptoms.  And the league's sycophants were screaming that he was tested for a concussion daily.  IF that were true, why not state that in the joint statement?

 

And the fact that the joint statement says that the doctor didn't even look at the back after it allegedly caused Tua to act punchdrunk seems to be them throwing the doctor under the bus for gross incompetence.  If he really had a back injury that caused him to act concussed, shouldn't Doc Dingdong at a minimum have LOOKED at the back to see if there was a reason to expect that same thing happen again.

 

#### all these CYAing arseholes.

[Ann]

No one thinks he should have gone back in, except the investigators

 

 

 

[Sig1Hunter]

5 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

It isn't if you go back to what the Fishies were saying prior to the Bungles game.  He'd had a back (& ankle) injury; he did NOT have a head injury.  IF he didn't have a head injury AND as they say he subsequently did not exhibit any concussion symptoms then there was no reason to be testing him as he WAS NOT IN THE CONCUSSION PROTOCOLS.

 

They flat out admitted that they essentially asked Tua if he had a concussion and he said 'no, he hurt his back, not his head' and the doctor said 'duh, OK, but you'd let us know if you did get a boo boo on your head, right'  and once Tua said 'turdlegumph' the doctor & the neurological specialist both looked at each other and nodded, 'yup, he's fine.'

 

And again, this brings up another annoying thing about this, the NFL's CMO claims the Fish were testing Tua every day but the Fish explicitly denied that (prior to the Bungles game) and the joint statement never says that he was tested after saying he had a back injury, just that he never exhibited concussion symptoms.  And the league's sycophants were screaming that he was tested for a concussion daily.  IF that were true, why not state that in the joint statement?

 

And the fact that the joint statement says that the doctor didn't even look at the back after it allegedly caused Tua to act punchdrunk seems to be them throwing the doctor under the bus for gross incompetence.  If he really had a back injury that caused him to act concussed, shouldn't Doc Dingdong at a minimum have LOOKED at the back to see if there was a reason to expect that same thing happen again.

 

#### all these CYAing arseholes.

Turdlegumph!

 

 Well put. One of the most interesting things that this whole episode reminds me is that the NFLPA is a neutered chihuahua when it comes to truly having any power in the real interests of its members. 

[Alaska Darin]

 

[Alaska Darin]

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